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Old 11-23-2021, 12:12 PM
 
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Why is it that every neighborhood that I've ever lived in since 1972 there was no need for the cops to come in and be friends in order to lower crime? Never, ever, ever.

We just kinda, listen here now ya'll, just didn't commit crime. That keeps the cops out, ya know.
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Old 11-23-2021, 12:25 PM
 
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Agreed.

Young Men need to be given employment and training opportunities. When they don't have a constructive path they will reign terror on any society.
I'm not totally in agreement on this. There will be those who look for the easy way to make money. Stealing, drugs, etc. There will always be those who don't want to put in the effort or time.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Why is it that every neighborhood that I've ever lived in since 1972 there was no need for the cops to come in and be friends in order to lower crime? Never, ever, ever.

We just kinda, listen here now ya'll, just didn't commit crime. That keeps the cops out, ya know.
When you have incidents that cause mistrust, you need that type of community relationship. Especially if the police want courtesy, professionalism and respect.
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Old 11-23-2021, 07:45 PM
 
Location: NY
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Agreed.

Young Men need to be given employment and training opportunities. When they don't have a constructive path they will reign terror on any society.
I know quite a few of my friends that were going nowhere in life back in the
60's -70's and they end up joining the military. They are doing much better than me today.
God Bless them.

Young men with no constructive paths have a way out.....the military is just one sound investment..
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Old 11-26-2021, 05:18 AM
 
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So, a community policing initiative where police listen to the concerns of the neighborhood, as opposed to police going in and doing what it wants, at the expense of innocent folk. An idea of the late David Dinkins, which many balances community and strict law enforcement, is proven effective.

But folk are still gonna hate the two mayors who advocated it....!
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And also building a relationship with local residents, to form more trust so the residents are more willing to cooperate with police, make anonymous tips, and identify suspects or gang members.
Why is this only true in black neighborhoods?

I live in a 99% white neighborhood. The only time I see cops is when something happens and that's maybe once a month (if that)?

Do you think cops hobknob with residents in low crime neighborhoods?
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Old 11-26-2021, 05:22 AM
 
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Agreed.

Young Men need to be given employment and training opportunities. When they don't have a constructive path they will reign terror on any society.
Hard when 18+ years has instilled impulsiveness, lack of discipline, general disrespect, poor literacy, severe lack of numeracy, etc.

You think most of these young dudes would grind it out for YEARS in minimum wage jobs until they can better themselves? lol
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Old 11-26-2021, 05:40 AM
 
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Agreed.

Young Men need to be given employment and training opportunities. When they don't have a constructive path they will reign terror on any society.
another poor assumption .. a multi trillion dollar under ground economy and criminal underworld says so
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Old 11-26-2021, 06:48 AM
 
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Regardless of one's personal view, it should be noted that *more* interactions with police not only helped to decrease crime but also improve relations. Police Officers shouldn't be folks you only see when something bad happens, but a part of the community. Notice how firehouse doors are always open but precinct doors are not. More positive interactions with police lead to more tips, more trust, less provocation, etc.
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Old 11-26-2021, 07:17 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Regardless of one's personal view, it should be noted that *more* interactions with police not only helped to decrease crime but also improve relations. Police Officers shouldn't be folks you only see when something bad happens, but a part of the community. Notice how firehouse doors are always open but precinct doors are not. More positive interactions with police lead to more tips, more trust, less provocation, etc.
Precinct doors are never open? Where did you get this information?

Precinct doors - all 77 of them, plus transit and housing districts - are open 24/7 to the public and have been since forever. Firehouses are NOT open 24/7. That little side door is locked, someone has to come open it for you.

Since you don't believe any of what I just wrote, the simple solution is to test it. Walk up to any precinct in the city and open the front door. Walk up to any firehouse in the city and TRY to open the front door.

Yes I get it, on nice days the firemen hang out with the front doors open. There's your hook to denigrate my post.
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Old 11-26-2021, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Why is this only true in black neighborhoods?

I live in a 99% white neighborhood. The only time I see cops is when something happens and that's maybe once a month (if that)?

Do you think cops hobknob with residents in low crime neighborhoods?

I've lived in the 122 Precinct on S.I. for 30 years. The 122 usually ranks first or second lowest crime rate in the city. I'll occasionally see officers in the coffee shop and always say hello to them. They know we appreciate them unlike in the always-complaining slum districts of the city. As you say we don't expect cops to be chummy with us, all we expect from the NYPD is a strict aggressive 'guns drawn' response to 911 calls.
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