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Old 12-10-2021, 04:24 AM
 
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Lol..wanna bet?

Extended UI + not having to pay rent is plenty to live on for a year.
for. the bulk ,unemployment has totally ended or will endthe next few weeks since the bulk went on in ,march of 2020 ..that is all be benefits , extended or not
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Old 12-10-2021, 04:38 AM
 
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What about the other bills?
Didn't have to pay gas + electric either. Not paying rent, do you think they were paying utility bills? Doesn't make much sense, right?

Extended UI + federal top up wasn't enough for food + non-food essentials?

Housing is , by far, the largest expense for most.Take that away and most could live comfortably on relatively low wages. What do you think many retirees do?
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Old 12-10-2021, 04:45 AM
 
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for. the bulk ,unemployment has totally ended or will endthe next few weeks since the bulk went on in ,march of 2020 ..that is all be benefits , extended or not
I'm not sure what your point is. We all understand UI ended some time ago and I stated that I don't believe it has contributed much to the heightened labor shortage today.

My point was specifically to address the notion that people couldn't support themselves for a year with "pandemic money". That's simply not true.

I know of a few people that were much better off during the pandemic with federal top-up + stimulus payments. Notwithstanding the fact that they could skip out on rent and utilities. Which many did (especially in NYC).
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Old 12-10-2021, 05:34 AM
 
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it is still not likely a factor at this stage …the extra fed money ended months ago and unemployment starts out-at half of what you earned up to 50k and then grows less and less as a percentage.

it really is not a long term do for most of us .

the consensus was when the extra fed money ended most would seek jobs .

that proved to be false thinking .

there are millions that just accelerated retiring or cant work being unvaccinated and that is a huge part of the labor issue .

many higher level workers got deals like six months or a years severance as well

so in total we are now missing 4.4 millions workers , most of which are not on unemployment nor out there looking for employment for whatever reasons
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Old 12-10-2021, 07:01 AM
 
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Didn't have to pay gas + electric either. Not paying rent, do you think they were paying utility bills? Doesn't make much sense, right?

Extended UI + federal top up wasn't enough for food + non-food essentials?

Housing is , by far, the largest expense for most.Take that away and most could live comfortably on relatively low wages. What do you think many retirees do?
So gas and electric were not cutting ppl off during the pandemic? This is news to me. Got a link?
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Old 12-10-2021, 07:15 AM
 
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what i see happening is that all these higher wages having to be paid will eventually level off as future raises will be smaller or not at all….it is like in our industry crazy wages are being offered all over ..but you know that will find away of leveling out
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Old 12-10-2021, 07:20 AM
 
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The cream cheese shortage hits Junior's.
Couldn't have come in a most inopportune time.
I don't care for bagels with cream cheese but I like cheesecake, dammit!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/09/busin...ese/index.html

Junior's Cheesecake has a big problem: Not enough cream cheese.

The company's cheesecake is made from about 85% cream cheese, making it impossible to prepare without that key ingredient. The shortage meant the company had to pause cheesecake production on Friday in its Burlington, New Jersey, baking facility because it didn't have enough of the ingredient, according to owner Alan Rosen. It reopened Sunday, after a frantic Saturday trip to pick up more. But it will have to pause production again on Thursday, Rosen said, as the problem persists.

The factory is where Junior's makes its signature product, which it sells to thousands of national retailers, as well as to restaurants, directly to consumers and in its own four restaurant locations. Every year, Junior's goes through about four million pounds of cream cheese to make its signature product, Rosen said.
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Old 12-10-2021, 07:25 AM
 
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its funny but the only two foods i seem to have stomach issues with are cheerios and also cream cheese
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Old 12-10-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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Good Lord. It has nothing to do with cream cheese per se, don't be myopic. It's just a "relatable" example of the supply shortages going on generally. If you've tried to buy a car, a piece of furniture, a gaming system, computer parts, food, or any number of other consumer goods in the last year or so, you already know this is going on.
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Old 12-10-2021, 08:57 AM
 
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Good Lord. It has nothing to do with cream cheese per se, don't be myopic. It's just a "relatable" example of the supply shortages going on generally. If you've tried to buy a car, a piece of furniture, a gaming system, computer parts, food, or any number of other consumer goods in the last year or so, you already know this is going on.
Yup. And everybody figures out eventually that there is no such thing as a shortage. You can always get something, it's just a matter of price. If there are less widgets than there were before, the widgets are going to go to whoever pays more and inflation takes another step up
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