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Old 12-21-2021, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Would it kill them to give these FUGLY towers just a shred of architectural quality?
Not all of them are ugly, 111 West 57th St comes to mind. Very beautiful tower.
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Old 12-22-2021, 10:11 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Not all of them are ugly, 111 West 57th St comes to mind. Very beautiful tower.
Are you actually serious?
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Old 12-22-2021, 10:21 AM
 
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The rich billionaire owners are suing the developer.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-...million-2021-9

The condo board of one of New York's most expensive addresses is suing the building's developers.
Complaints include flooding, faulty elevators, and loud noises when the building sways.

The lawsuit stated that the noise and vibrations from the building swaying were "horrible and obtrusive." The lawsuit also said that the chairman of CIM Group "admitted that the sound and vibration issues are 'intolerable,' rendering it difficult to sleep during periods of even moderately inclement weather."

The building's elevators are supposed to slow when the building is buffeted by high winds, but elevators often stopped entirely and trapped residents inside for hours. Residents also were subject to flooding, water damage, and air conditioning breakdowns, the lawsuit said.

The lawsuit even labeled some of the design flaws as "life safety issues," such as two electrical explosions that occurred in the building.
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Old 12-22-2021, 03:08 PM
 
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The rich billionaire owners are suing the developer.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-...million-2021-9

The condo board of one of New York's most expensive addresses is suing the building's developers.
Complaints include flooding, faulty elevators, and loud noises when the building sways.

The lawsuit stated that the noise and vibrations from the building swaying were "horrible and obtrusive." The lawsuit also said that the chairman of CIM Group "admitted that the sound and vibration issues are 'intolerable,' rendering it difficult to sleep during periods of even moderately inclement weather."

The building's elevators are supposed to slow when the building is buffeted by high winds, but elevators often stopped entirely and trapped residents inside for hours. Residents also were subject to flooding, water damage, and air conditioning breakdowns, the lawsuit said.

The lawsuit even labeled some of the design flaws as "life safety issues," such as two electrical explosions that occurred in the building.
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Old 12-22-2021, 05:27 PM
 
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Are you actually serious?
111W57 looks good (not amazing) from the sides where the Art Deco detail stands out. I was surprised how "old NYC" it actually looks. And of course 220 Central Park south with its classy Alabama limestone exterior is nice little gem.
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Old 12-23-2021, 07:42 AM
 
Location: New York City
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111W57 looks good (not amazing) from the sides where the Art Deco detail stands out. I was surprised how "old NYC" it actually looks. And of course 220 Central Park south with its classy Alabama limestone exterior is nice little gem.
Yes, I forgot about that! 220 is actually a very nice building and an example of how to still make a 'safe deposit box' tower look good. But 432, 111, and CPT are all hideous, thin pencils dominating the skyline with zero aesthetic.
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Old 12-23-2021, 09:13 AM
 
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Given the existing lawsuits and VERY small target audience (remember they are asking a market for ppl who will drop 9 figures on an APARTMENT - not even a house!), then I don't see how this would be feasible. The kind of people who have that wealth are very selective about how they spend it. And word gets around fast in their communities.
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Old 12-23-2021, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Old 12-24-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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Given the existing lawsuits and VERY small target audience (remember they are asking a market for ppl who will drop 9 figures on an APARTMENT - not even a house!), then I don't see how this would be feasible. The kind of people who have that wealth are very selective about how they spend it. And word gets around fast in their communities.
Well, so far it's only 432 Park Ave that has a multitude of documented problems. Much of those problems seem specific to the flawed design of 432 Park - the excessive swaying, the loud trash chutes, the bursting pipes, etc. Overall just a very poorly designed and low quality built tower.

The shorter billionaires row towers (220 Cent Park S and 520 Park Ave) are built at a reasonable height (under 900ft) and using a classical design philosophy so I can't see these nice buildings having any issues at all.

CPT and 111W57, due to their height at well over 1400ft, may end up having similar issues as 432 Park, BUT if the construction was done right and with good quality, they shouldn't. CPT was built slower and with unionized construction crews, while 111W57 was built using largely non-unionized illegal immigrants. So it's anyone's guess which tower will probably have more issues in the long-run.
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Old 12-31-2021, 10:29 AM
 
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I searched for construction defect issues for 111W57. Didn't find anything.
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