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Old 12-30-2021, 09:04 AM
 
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No, it is not a generalization, it is a fact that about 30% of second-generation Nigerian Americans have postgraduate degrees, while only about 10% of the US population overall has them. How is constant bringing up of the disproportionate incarceration of a certain racial group not a generalization, but pointing out that an immigrant subset of that SAME racial group is the most educated in the US (compared with ANY other racial group or subgroup, including Asians) is somehow a generalization?

Of course there are exceptions from a trend, but we are talking about massive trends here. The degree and frequency of social success of Nigerians also points to the obvious fact that racism is not "systemic" in the US.
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Old 12-30-2021, 09:55 AM
 
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Sometimes immigrants push their children into high-profile careers and fuel the whole college thing instead of letting the child (or helping the child) figure out what they really want to do in life. Plenty of other ways to make money besides being a doctor or a lawyer. I am not saying that this is the norm, just saying that I've seen it happen before.
The whole "letting your child do whatever they want in life" is just upper class luxury that poor working people can't afford. Thats why the only people promoting this nonsense are upper class. Pushing your child hard academically, or starting a business, is the only way out for the vast majority of people, unless your child has some kind of exceptional extreme talent (which 99% of kids don't). The upper class kids can pursue whatever they want, since after they fail, they will get to sit on the board of a nonprofit drawing salary anyway or curate art in a SOHO gallery due to their parents connections.
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Old 12-30-2021, 10:49 AM
 
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I am unable to post links in this forum (something technical - I can cut a link, but when I try to paste it into this forum, nothing happens). The Wikipedia entry for "Nigerian Americans" states that 29% Nigerian Americans have graduate degrees compared with 11% Americans overall. This information is in the subsection "Socioeconomics", under the first sub-sub-section "Education", along with the information that Nigerians are the most educated group in the US, and that over 60% Nigerian Americans hold a bachelor's degree compared with less than 30% Americans overall.

I saw similar data somewhere else (can't remember exactly where), but comparable figures are all over the Internet, and the Wikipedia sources appear reliable. Furthermore, this closely agrees with what I know about Nigerians and other African immigrants (and to some extent Jamaicans too) that I have personally met, or know of.
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Old 12-30-2021, 10:56 AM
 
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The whole "letting your child do whatever they want in life" is just upper class luxury that poor working people can't afford. Thats why the only people promoting this nonsense are upper class. Pushing your child hard academically, or starting a business, is the only way out for the vast majority of people, unless your child has some kind of exceptional extreme talent (which 99% of kids don't). The upper class kids can pursue whatever they want, since after they fail, they will get to sit on the board of a nonprofit drawing salary anyway or curate art in a SOHO gallery due to their parents connections.

Basically, yes. I would add there are vocational schools too (all of which are free) that also provide kids with solid occupations, even if they are low-achievers in ordinary schools. A parent has to ascertain that their teenage kid is on track for being trained for a self-supporting occupation, and is not engaging in crime, or in having kids while he/she is still mentally and financially immature for parenting.
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