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Old 01-18-2022, 05:40 AM
 
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"At its lowest point, in April 2020, ridership at the Junction Boulevard station fell to about 10 percent of prepandemic levels. But eventually people in this nexus of working-class immigrant neighborhoods piled back on the trains. By November 2020, ridership rose to 55.3 percent of prepandemic levels; one year later, it had climbed to 74.2 percent."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/17/n...BSF_5yTHTTMqxY
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Old 01-18-2022, 05:55 AM
 
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"At its lowest point, in April 2020, ridership at the Junction Boulevard station fell to about 10 percent of prepandemic levels. But eventually people in this nexus of working-class immigrant neighborhoods piled back on the trains. By November 2020, ridership rose to 55.3 percent of prepandemic levels; one year later, it had climbed to 74.2 percent."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/17/n...BSF_5yTHTTMqxY
What this demonstrates is the lasting power of remote work, which will continue being very destructive to the NYC economy. With Wall St's median income above 450k, that transferred much of their working hours disposable income from NYC restaurants and bars after work to their home regions of Ct , NJ, Westchester County.

The deaths by being pushed onto subway tracks will reenforce this great divide.
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Old 01-18-2022, 06:04 AM
 
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What this demonstrates is the lasting power of remote work, which will continue being very destructive to the NYC economy. With Wall St's median income above 450k, that transferred much of their working hours disposable income from NYC restaurants and bars after work to their home regions of Ct , NJ, Westchester County.

The deaths by being pushed onto subway tracks will reenforce this great divide.
What this also demonstrates is that there are still millions of people who will go about their onsite jobs regardless of remote work. NYC is not going to shut down even if today's office workers are working from home.
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Old 01-18-2022, 06:40 AM
 
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What this also demonstrates is that there are still millions of people who will go about their onsite jobs regardless of remote work. NYC is not going to shut down even if today's office workers are working from home.
Right now a lot of restaurants, office buildings and others are skimming by on the hopes of this being over in the next year or so. Remote work becoming the norm would devestate the NYC working class as construction and service industry jobs would dry up.
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Old 01-18-2022, 06:42 AM
 
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Remote work becoming the norm would devestate the NYC working class as construction and service industry jobs would dry up.
Two years into the pandemic and these onsite jobs haven't vanished yet. As the article stated, more and more of these onsite workers are actually going back to work if subway use is an indication.
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Old 01-18-2022, 08:21 AM
 
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Two years into the pandemic and these onsite jobs haven't vanished yet. As the article stated, more and more of these onsite workers are actually going back to work if subway use is an indication.
Certain segments of the service industry are and will be impacted.

Service workers aren't having $500 business lunches and dinners. Nor do they get the same amount of dental work or spend $100's a month in dry cleaning.

It's not catastrophic because that spend has just shifted elsewhere and the city still gets it's cut but the impact on certain segments is and will be catastrophic.
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Old 01-18-2022, 08:28 AM
 
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Trains in the Bronx went back to packed almost a year ago
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Old 01-18-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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It's not catastrophic because that spend has just shifted elsewhere and the city still gets it's cut but the impact on certain segments is and will be catastrophic.
It won't be the first time this happened. Catastrophic impacts on pockets of the economy have been an ongoing thing in the U.S. (some would say for the better)
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Old 01-18-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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I saw this disparity and divide, in the subways.......DURING THE PANDEMIC!

And it hasn't changed. The rich can stay home, while the poor have to pack a 6 train in the Bronx with suspended express service! Or working class have to come from Queens with no W service!
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Old 01-18-2022, 08:51 AM
 
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No f-king sh-t.

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What this also demonstrates is that there are still millions of people who will go about their onsite jobs regardless of remote work. NYC is not going to shut down even if today's office workers are working from home.
What this demonstrates is low income people cannot afford the luxury of traveling in cars to work
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