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Old 01-26-2022, 10:17 AM
 
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God forbid we ask drivers to do TWO things at once, neither of which involves a cell-phone.

Speedometers have a function, even for selfish, entitled idiots.

Anyone who cannot be aware of the road AND his speed should have his driving privileges revoked.
I will bet you don’t even own a car ….
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Old 01-26-2022, 03:05 PM
 
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The problems isn't the speed limit. 25mph is still plenty. The problem is the old infrastructure and city planning.

Tens of thousands of people collecting good paychecks doing absolutely nothing.

Just Stop commenting on things you know nothing about. Please!
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Old 01-26-2022, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Just Stop commenting on things you know nothing about. Please!
For Manhattan and pedestrian heavy neighborhoods in Brooklyn/Northwest Queens its appropriate, heck I think they should lower most side streets in these areas to 20mph, but definitely not for major arterials in the outer parts of the city like Staten Island or Eastern and Southern Queens.
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Old 01-27-2022, 08:13 AM
 
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For Manhattan and pedestrian heavy neighborhoods in Brooklyn/Northwest Queens its appropriate, heck I think they should lower most side streets in these areas to 20mph, but definitely not for major arterials in the outer parts of the city like Staten Island or Eastern and Southern Queens.

I am not alone at disagreeing with any area having speed limits lowered to 25mph or less. There's such thing as being a responsible driver AND a responsible pedestrian when commuting through a heavy pedestrian neighborhood. 20mph is not driving. My car is a 5-speed stick shift. In 1st gear out of 5 gears, if I only lift my foot off the brake, I'm at 15mph. Moving that slow is an annoyance. And it doesn't work. Vision Zero is a proven failure with total fatalities higher in 2021 than the preceding 7 years.


https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/01/...-zero-history/




The problem is not speeding alone. It's multi-factorial which this policy cannot address b/c of the confluence of large cars, more bikes, and more people who view traffic navigation differently depending on where they're from. I would advise Adams to return to normal speed limits, increase traffic enforcement, and look to Barcelona, Spain. Maybe I'm wrong b/c I haven't seen the numbers. But I have never seen a city that integrates people, cars, and cyclists as well as Barcelona.
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Old 01-27-2022, 12:43 PM
 
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A lot of us are getting our hard earned money taken away by the city government for traffic and camera reasons. Some of us have the brains and knowledge to drive at the speed that is the most logical. Speed cameras are starting to hurt our finances. Is there any possibility we could see speed cameras protests in NYC in the future?
Doubt it. That would actually be a useful protest. Most residents of NYC are generally not fans of anything useful.
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Old 01-30-2022, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I will bet you don’t even own a car ….
No longer, but when I did I was always aware of the road ahead AND MY SPEED.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:10 AM
 
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As I thought
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Old 01-30-2022, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Getting rid of speed cameras......so folk can zoom, zoom, zoom down Queens Boulevard, Flatbush Avenue, Pennsylvania Avenue in Starrett City, Fordham Road and all the highways like Daytona, and puts people's lives and safety in jeopardy.
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Old 01-30-2022, 12:45 PM
 
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Speaking specifically about Queens Blvd. If you don't want people to drive at what should be a reasonable speed for that road (40-45 mph) don't build a 10 lane boulevard with both service and main roadways. If you then try and slap a 25 mph speed limit on it, yes, people are going to speed, because the road design supports it. Of course you can then slap speed cameras on it to collect a nice road tax.

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Getting rid of speed cameras......so folk can zoom, zoom, zoom down Queens Boulevard, Flatbush Avenue, Pennsylvania Avenue in Starrett City, Fordham Road and all the highways like Daytona, and puts people's lives and safety in jeopardy.
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Old 01-30-2022, 01:05 PM
 
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I am not alone at disagreeing with any area having speed limits lowered to 25mph or less. There's such thing as being a responsible driver AND a responsible pedestrian when commuting through a heavy pedestrian neighborhood. 20mph is not driving. My car is a 5-speed stick shift. In 1st gear out of 5 gears, if I only lift my foot off the brake, I'm at 15mph. Moving that slow is an annoyance. And it doesn't work. Vision Zero is a proven failure with total fatalities higher in 2021 than the preceding 7 years.


https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/01/...-zero-history/




The problem is not speeding alone. It's multi-factorial which this policy cannot address b/c of the confluence of large cars, more bikes, and more people who view traffic navigation differently depending on where they're from. I would advise Adams to return to normal speed limits, increase traffic enforcement, and look to Barcelona, Spain. Maybe I'm wrong b/c I haven't seen the numbers. But I have never seen a city that integrates people, cars, and cyclists as well as Barcelona.
Because moving slow is an "annoyance", the speed limit should be higher? Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

Leave earlier to account for that "annoyance" or is planning and being on time "white supremacy"?
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