MTA chief Janno Lieber slams Manhattan pol over ‘billions’ spent on mental health (appointed)

[Aeran]

Woah. He went there. Thrive NYC. What a joke. But! What about MTA's own overtime scam scandal. People in glass houses...

https://www.amny.com/news/mta-chief-...mental-health/

MTA chief Janno Lieber lambasted Manhattan politicians who urged him to prioritize subway platform doors in their borough, telling them to take a good look in the mirror over failed city mental health efforts.

During a radio interview Thursday, the transit big criticized Manhattan Borough President and former Council Member Mark Levine for his push for the station barriers in the wake of the shocking shoving of Michelle Alyssa Go into a train at Times Square almost two weeks ago.

Lieber took aim at Levine, who was the head of the Council’s health committee, but the transit chief also misstated that the pol chaired the separate mental health committee during his time on the legislative body.

“I am disappointed that the Manhattan Borough President, who was the health committee chair of the City Council for years,” said Lieber on the Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC on Jan. 27. “He was the chair of the mental health committee and what was going on when they spent billions of dollars on mental health that left us with the conditions we’re seeing in the system.”

The Mayor Bill de Blasio administration famously spent more than $1 billion over six years on its mental health initiative dubbed ThriveNYC, later rebranded as the Mayor’s Office of Community Mental Health, and watchdogs have said the costly effort has amounted to few measurable improvements in the city.

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Originally Posted by Aeran

Woah. He went there. Thrive NYC. What a joke. But! What about MTA's own overtime scam scandal. People in glass houses...

https://www.amny.com/news/mta-chief-...mental-health/

MTA chief Janno Lieber lambasted Manhattan politicians who urged him to prioritize subway platform doors in their borough, telling them to take a good look in the mirror over failed city mental health efforts.

During a radio interview Thursday, the transit big criticized Manhattan Borough President and former Council Member Mark Levine for his push for the station barriers in the wake of the shocking shoving of Michelle Alyssa Go into a train at Times Square almost two weeks ago.

Lieber took aim at Levine, who was the head of the Council’s health committee, but the transit chief also misstated that the pol chaired the separate mental health committee during his time on the legislative body.

“I am disappointed that the Manhattan Borough President, who was the health committee chair of the City Council for years,” said Lieber on the Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC on Jan. 27. “He was the chair of the mental health committee and what was going on when they spent billions of dollars on mental health that left us with the conditions we’re seeing in the system.”

The Mayor Bill de Blasio administration famously spent more than $1 billion over six years on its mental health initiative dubbed ThriveNYC, later rebranded as the Mayor’s Office of Community Mental Health, and watchdogs have said the costly effort has amounted to few measurable improvements in the city.

Levine responded that thia was an "ad hominem attack" from Lieber . Absolutely not. Lieber did not say anything ad hominem, only pointed out the obvious fact that there is an increased number of the homeless mentally ill living in the subway after billions of $ were presumably spent on mental health.

[Esacni]

Wait. I said a few weeks back that subway platform doors in NYC (with all.of the other issues outstanding) are a blatantly stupid idea and it seems the MTA chief agrees.

Where's that other poster who claimed I have no clue what I was talking about?

[Esacni]

Originally Posted by tampabucs

Are you really this dumb? The MTA Chief agreed with you

No f--kn **** he would agree not to spend $$ on platform doors when he can pocket the money himself.

What's next? You're going to tell us the NRA thinks keeping guns off the streets of NYC is a bad idea and you had the same thoughts a week ago?

Oh, there you are.

I don't think the MTA has a problem spending money. This idea was so blatantly stupid that even the MTA can't justify spending money on it now with all of the other issues at hand.

BTW, your NRA comparison is poor. The NRA is purely an advocacy organization. Further, illegal guns are a problem, not guns in general. I don't see why the NRA would be against illegal.guns in inner cities since it's a conservative org and most of.its members don't think too highly of inner cities.

Your line of reasoning is a fail once again.

[Esacni]

Originally Posted by tampabucs

There I am what? I'm probably not the only one and not the last to think you are stupid, but I don't think I ever replied to you before.

MTA doesn't want to build platform doors because that would mean they would have to get to work.

They take money and do no work all the time.

If the MTA doesn't want money for a project, usually.means it's truly an utterly stupid idea that's not even remotely feasible even at a highly bloated cost.

If it costs the MTA $80MM per elevator, what would the budget have to be to outfit every single station with platform doors (many of which would need to be custom made due to the various platform configurations in existence)?

Haven't thought about that part much? There are 472 stations (many with 2 islands configurations).

It'd be cheaper to literally hire 4-6 extra cops per station to keep the aggressive homeless out.

Zero critical thinking skills.

[Wintercrush]

Just cut to the chase: Who stoled all the money?

[antinimby]

^ It’s safe to say they all belong to the (D) Party.

[Esacni]

Just read this but you didn't have to be a genius to figure out what the MTA probably paid millions to a consulting group for. Anybody with an IQ of 80 and who's taken the subway for any length of time could figure out that installing platform doors on all stations is not feasible without major overhauls of the stations themselves.

https://gothamist.com/news/mta-drops...r-track-safety

In 2017, the MTA commissioned a consulting group to study all 472 subway stations to see if the platform barriers could be installed and what it would cost. Two years later, in 2019, the firm STV delivered a nearly 3,000-page report, which the MTA finally released publicly on Thursday afternoon.

The report found that only 128 stations could accommodate the protective barriers, and it would cost the MTA about $7 billion dollars to install them. That would be almost 14% of the current capital plan...

While the study goes into exhaustive detail about the challenges of installing three different types of platform screen doors at all stations on all lines, STV also identified recurring problems.

Overall, there were three main reasons most stations couldn’t accommodate the platform screen doors:

At 154 stations, the platforms were too narrow to have room for both doors and wheelchair access.
The shape of many subway cars and the lip of platforms would leave large gaps between the platform edge and the trains.
Finally, the platform screen doors would be hard to install amidst the structural support columns in many stations.
The report is so precise it even includes exact measurements for many platforms and renderings that detail the space constraints, as well as consideration of how the lighting might be affected, and even the cost of replacing ceramic tiles during construction.

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Originally Posted by Esacni

Just read this but you didn't have to be a genius to figure out what the MTA probably paid millions to a consulting group for. Anybody with an IQ of 80 and who's taken the subway for any length of time could figure out that installing platform doors on all stations is not feasible without major overhauls of the stations themselves.

https://gothamist.com/news/mta-drops...r-track-safety

Of course! But it wouldn't be the MTA without a expending a gross waste of capital to reach a conclusion that only requires a little common sense, right?

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by Wintercrush

Just cut to the chase: Who stoled all the money?

Not the DOE, apparently.