Verizon’s Aging Copper Lines Leave Customers Hung Up With Frustration (New York: lease, tenants)

[BBMW]

Pretty much. But while the POTS plant would stay up in a blackout, anything that "blows out all electronic devices", would take out the POTS switching system also.

Originally Posted by BlakeJones

That's easy to say but when the power goes down or something blows out all electronic devices, there will be no backup

[Cida]

Kind of misleading.

The problem really isn't the copper lines. The problem is Verizon's indifference and lack of accountability.

[sojourn traveller]

Verizon couldn't care less and would rather their troublesome subscribers go to the competition.

[martinjsxx]

I didn’t want Verizon Fios because I didn’t like that it requires a terminal (an “ONT”) to be installed in your home in your basement or a closet and they have to run wires from that device, and the installation can take the better part of a day. I chose Spectrum and they ran one cable into my home near where my old copper wire came in. I connected the modem and router in the that room and it was done (I don’t have cable TV). No need for a separate terminal permanently affixed to the wall of a closet or in the basement with wires running from it. Look at the ONT thing they need to install in your home for Fios (2:00 minute mark of video). It looks like something that belongs in a data center, not a home.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fahad5Cp6zU

[BBMW]

No, they'd rather these customers switch to the modern fiber optic system they've been building out, rather than stay on the old copper system Verizon should rather abandon. They don't want to have to maintain both.

Originally Posted by sojourn traveller

Verizon couldn't care less and would rather their troublesome subscribers go to the competition.

[BBMW]

Yes but then you have to put up with Spectrum zservuce, which, especially for broadband, has been substandard

Originally Posted by martinjsxx

I didn’t want Verizon Fios because I didn’t like that it requires a terminal (an “ONT”) to be installed in your home in your basement or a closet and they have to run wires from that device, and the installation can take the better part of a day. I chose Spectrum and they ran one cable into my home near where my old copper wire came in. I connected the modem and router in the that room and it was done (I don’t have cable TV). No need for a separate terminal permanently affixed to the wall of a closet or in the basement with wires running from it. Look at the ONT thing they need to install in your home for Fios (2:00 minute mark of video). It looks like something that belongs in a data center, not a home.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fahad5Cp6zU

[martinjsxx]

Originally Posted by BBMW

Yes but then you have to put up with Spectrum zservuce, which, especially for broadband, has been substandard

Substandard how? I have had only one substantial outage of a few hours in almost three years with Spectrum when Con Ed damaged one of their lines.

[sojourn traveller]

Originally Posted by BBMW

No, they'd rather these customers switch to the modern fiber optic system they've been building out, rather than stay on the old copper system Verizon should rather abandon. They don't want to have to maintain both.

Of course, but I thought the article said Fios was not available. Maybe I misread it.

[BBMW]

Much slower. At peak times I had trouble getting pages to load.

Originally Posted by martinjsxx

Substandard how? I have had only one substantial outage of a few hours in almost three years with Spectrum when Con Ed damaged one of their lines.

[BugsyPal]

Originally Posted by pierrepont7731

T-Mobile has a home internet service now.

T-Mobile's 5G home "broadband" service is pretty good if it is available.

Keeping in mind as with many other new entrants into internet market, T-Mobile is wireless/WiFi. This is good if you don't want yet another set of wires or cables running into or through your home.

https://tidbits.com/2022/03/31/5g-home-internet/


WiFI is future if USA is ever going to bridge so called "digital divide". In urban areas like NYC most buildings are wired for landline/copper, cable, and or lately some sort of FIOS service. But many areas or building still aren't wired for last two, and getting that done is an expensive undertaking.

Not having to run cables or wires into a neighborhood and certainly home/building cuts down on roll out costs considerably. But you'll still may have to contend with people who don't want cell towers and other associated infrastructure in their area or whatever.

Knew people who go back and forth between Verizon (DSL, FIOS or whatever), and Spectrum cable. They sign up for whatever good promotion is on offer, when that ends bust a move over to competition. Year or so later later, rinse and repeat.

Larger issue is cost IMHO. No matter how you slice things internet, cable, telephone service isn't cheap. Bundles save a bit, but still...