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Old 03-24-2022, 05:29 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Another problem within itself. Truth be told, the shelters exhibit the same issues as your typical slumlord. Add to it that a lot of shelter residents have mental issues, and it culminates to a bad situation.

How would you go about cleaning up the shelters? Any ideas?
For starters, some accountability. Many of the operators running the shelters are being paid handsomely by the City, but there's little oversight from the City to see that the operators are doing their part, so lots of money spent with little change to anything.

Under de Blasio, the City spent record amounts of money on the homeless, so money isn't the issue. Incompetence is.
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Old 03-24-2022, 05:37 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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What are the chances that a much larger than average proportion of people in the homeless shelters have/had developmental issues and are actually fairly incapable of functioning on their own? I think there's a pretty decent proportion of them that giving them the responsibility of deciding whether or not they need care or shelter is simply not beneficial to society at larger or to themselves.
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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It is an indictment of a society that is not yet CIVILIZED.
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Old 03-25-2022, 09:00 PM
 
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I have the distinct feeling that a record number of all sorts of categories died during the pandemic: The elderly, medical workers, small businesses, etc.
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Old 03-26-2022, 04:02 AM
 
Location: NY
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The article opens with an indictment against our government “not doing enough,†then moments later says that 3/4 of them died in shelters.

The government does MORE than enough for the homeless. The vast majority don’t want help. Over 18 years, I can count on one hand the amount of homeless people who accepted shelter when we offered it.




Absolutely Correct.
They have closed down on average one hospital per year since the 50's in N.Y.C.
displacing many people over the years in need of mental care. Where to go given
shelters are on the bottom rung of choice with the streets only one rung above.
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Old 03-26-2022, 06:36 AM
 
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Another problem within itself. Truth be told, the shelters exhibit the same issues as your typical slumlord. Add to it that a lot of shelter residents have mental issues, and it culminates to a bad situation.

How would you go about cleaning up the shelters? Any ideas?
Birth control. Will take 20 years but it will work like a charm
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Old 03-26-2022, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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China had the right idea: one child per woman...and then they panicked and abandoned it when they saw it was working.

The U.S. has exactly the wrong idea: we give TAX BREAKS and food and housing support for extra kids. And we support religions whose goal is to "Go forth and multiply."
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Old 03-26-2022, 09:06 AM
 
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Give $30,000 a year to those who do not have kids.
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Old 03-26-2022, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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The government does MORE than enough for the homeless.
The shelters cannot even keep the homeless ALIVE. What would be the government doing LESS than enough, gas chambers?
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Old 03-26-2022, 09:31 AM
 
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No one asks if perhaps God is taking the sick and tired back to the promise land?
Shocking.
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