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The Manhattan Republican Party used to be a bunch of affluent professionals, often in finance, who almost unanimously supported Mitt Romney and the like.
Now at least based on the NYYRC website and news articles, it’s turned into a bunch of Roger Stone and Marjorie Taylor Greene supporters from Queens and Staten Island.
What happened? And has only the NYYRC changed, or has the whole NYC GOP changed?
The Manhattan Republican Party used to be a bunch of affluent professionals, often in finance, who almost unanimously supported Mitt Romney and the like.
Now at least based on the NYYRC website and news articles, it’s turned into a bunch of Roger Stone and Marjorie Taylor Greene supporters from Queens and Staten Island.
What happened? And has only the NYYRC changed, or has the whole NYC GOP changed?
City changed. Even UES once bastion of republican party in Manhattan long went democrat.
John Lindsay (republican who switched over to democrat) was good representative of "old" Manhattan republican party.
The Republicans were strong on the UES well past Lindsey. In the 90s we had a Republican mayor, state senator, city council critter, and I'm pretty sure state assembly critter also. After Bloomberg finally left it all kind of fell apart. I really don't know why. I know the minorities hated the Republicans tough on crime policies. But that wasn't the attitude here.
It’s so sad what’s happened to the GOP in Manhattan. Even though I grew up Queens, I’m currently based in Manhattan due to work and UES is far from its GOP past. Roy Goodman represented the East side in the state senate for a while.
I wish some of those reasonable, centrist Republicans in the Nelson Rockefeller mold would make a come back, however it doesn’t look like it’ll happen anytime soon (or ever).
The New York Young Republican Club was a bastion of Mitt Romney-supporting traditional conservatives well past 2010.
What happened to turn it into a bastion of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Roger Stone supporters in the past few years, and has the whole Manhattan GOP become the same way?
The New York Young Republican Club was a bastion of Mitt Romney-supporting traditional conservatives well past 2010.
What happened to turn it into a bastion of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Roger Stone supporters in the past few years, and has the whole Manhattan GOP become the same way?
Traditional conservatives either moved away or tuned out the party due to Trump/MAGA takeover. Add in how toxic the GOP brand is throughout NYC; it's not surprising that the MAGA supporters have taken over. I know this because I was part of NYYRC, I moved away, and even now that I'm partially back (split time between NYC, Boston, and CT), I have no desire to rejoin that organization.
I'm not sure if you are referring to the Manhattan GOP; if so, it's a preserve of the Catsimatidis family -- it's up to you to decide where they stand. They barely fielded any candidates for local races, and those that ran all lost, so if you are a results-oriented person, then I'd say the organization is pretty ineffectual.
If you are talking about regular people, then there are plenty of Republican or Republican-leaning people who (rightfully) don't broadcast their views. I know plenty of them from my (finance) professional network, employees, church, and even my bagel guy.
Traditional conservatives either moved away or tuned out the party due to Trump/MAGA takeover. Add in how toxic the GOP brand is throughout NYC; it's not surprising that the MAGA supporters have taken over. I know this because I was part of NYYRC, I moved away, and even now that I'm partially back (split time between NYC, Boston, and CT), I have no desire to rejoin that organization.
I'm not sure if you are referring to the Manhattan GOP; if so, it's a preserve of the Catsimatidis family -- it's up to you to decide where they stand. They barely fielded any candidates for local races, and those that ran all lost, so if you are a results-oriented person, then I'd say the organization is pretty ineffectual.
If you are talking about regular people, then there are plenty of Republican or Republican-leaning people who (rightfully) don't broadcast their views. I know plenty of them from my (finance) professional network, employees, church, and even my bagel guy.
GOP in Manhattan at least began turning away from national party long before Trump. There hasn't been a republican House (Albany or Washington, D.C), state senate or even city council person in more than three decades.
Just as in many other areas such as Boston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc.... many GOP began turning away from party with rise of Moral Majority and a very different sort of conservatism.
WASP republicans in Manhattan like some other areas mentioned tend to be socially progressive and fiscally conservative. Overall sort of liberal or left of center on many issues if you will. They certainly aren't in favor of using religion like a club to beat people into submission.
In Manhattan, NY and other areas moderate republicans have either left the party and or simply don't vote along party lines.
Elite educated Manhattan republicans don't see themselves has having much in common with working or middle class GOP from say Staten Island, Brooklyn or Queens either, both then and certainly now.
GOP in Manhattan at least began turning away from national party long before Trump. There hasn't been a republican House (Albany or Washington, D.C), state senate or even city council person in more than three decades.
Just as in many other areas such as Boston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc.... many GOP began turning away from party with rise of Moral Majority and a very different sort of conservatism.
WASP republicans in Manhattan like some other areas mentioned tend to be socially progressive and fiscally conservative. Overall sort of liberal or left of center on many issues if you will. They certainly aren't in favor of using religion like a club to beat people into submission.
In Manhattan, NY and other areas moderate republicans have either left the party and or simply don't vote along party lines.
Elite educated Manhattan republicans don't see themselves has having much in common with working or middle class GOP from say Staten Island, Brooklyn or Queens either, both then and certainly now.
I think you are conflating a number of things here. Republican nominees until Mitt Romney received significant campaign donations/support from Republicans in Manhattan. I know this because I have been to fundraisers/campaign events. Guiliani (1997), and Bloomberg (both terms) won Manhattan in the Mayoral elections. While you are correct in stating that Manhattan has not sent an elected GOP official to DC or Albany, which has more to do with the fact that Republicans simply don't have the electoral concentration/strength they do in parts of Staten Island or Northeastern Queens. The way Trump/MAGA has destroyed the GOP brand is like no other. Nationally and in the New York Metro, the GOP has shed college-educated/upper-middle & wealthy supporters for those on the lower socioeconomic scale. This is not limited to WASPs but rather across all voters.
What you are stating about WASPs, which has been a narrow/demographically shrinking subset of the electorate (whether they vote Democrat or Republican) is true; however, that realignment is not specific to Manhattan and has occurred in New England and California as well. What has changed pre-Trump vs. post-Trump is the takeover of many local parties/organizations (NYYRC) where America-first nationalists to outright racists have been the loudest voices/taken control with traditional conservatives, center-right moderates either unwelcomed or deciding to walk away. Here lies the difference, while Manhattan Republicans may not have much in common with working/middle-class GOP from the outer boroughs before Trump at least they had their institutions -- now those very institutions have been taken over by a Trump/MAGA-focused GOP.
The Manhattan Republican Party used to be a bunch of affluent professionals, often in finance, who almost unanimously supported Mitt Romney and the like.
Now at least based on the NYYRC website and news articles, it’s turned into a bunch of Roger Stone and Marjorie Taylor Greene supporters from Queens and Staten Island.
What happened? And has only the NYYRC changed, or has the whole NYC GOP changed?
yea, that's right, the old guard gop are now no better or different than filthy dirty left wing establishment demorats, like that piece of traitorous garbage I once voted for, Romney! Bush/Romney/McCain/Clinton/Obama = elitists
the gop is the lesser of two evils, as far as normal hard working traditional americans are concerned aka " conservatives." so this is the party we are forced to support.
btw, nobody from queens ever voted for roger stone or marjorie taylor green. ya hear!
and to play devil's advocate, when did the democrat party of nyc, built in the tradition of JFK and middle class working white ethnics, become the party of anti white racism while embracing socialism, supporting the likes of AOC? Think of all the old democrat voters from the WW2/Korea generation from a place like Sunnyside/Woodside that now see (if they are alive) a white hating demorat like AOC repping their old hood. They are turning in their graves.
it's the left in this country that has moved the goal posts on normalcy, not the right. if i told you 15 years ago that the left would embrace and push for gay marriage (obama was against it) and men identifying as women, having drag queens tell stories to your kids in libraries, burning down police stations, coordinating with Russians to try and frame a sitting US president, supporting the FBI colluding with social media to censor speech and thought, electing DA's that literally side with criminals, electing politicians that literally say no bail for criminals, and now selling weed out of store shops on main street, usa....you'd say I'm CRAZY. yet here we are!
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