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It’s not California news. It’s electric vehicle news. If you can’t charge the thing what’s the point in having one.
I like to see how things work in the real world before I blindly support them.
“In order to successfully achieve the newly announced goals, the politician revealed that the state is working on installing a number of fast chargers throughout New York—including ten at Port Authority and LaGuardia Airport.”
Thank god 10 chargers that take 20 mins each are being installed at one of the highest traveled areas in the state.
Who said NYC was not going to provide charging stations? Your comment was about California and California only.
There are electric cars in NYC at the moment so you’re seeing how it’s working in live time.
No one said you had to support it you can be against it. In my original post I simply mention how it’s big news as we are only the 2nd state in the US to make this announcement.
Didn’t California just ask their electric vehicle owners last week to not charge their cars to avoid extra blackouts ? What does one do then?
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Originally Posted by 94nasupra
It’s not California news. It’s electric vehicle news. If you can’t charge the thing what’s the point in having one.
I like to see how things work in the real world before I blindly support them.
“In order to successfully achieve the newly announced goals, the politician revealed that the state is working on installing a number of fast chargers throughout New York—including ten at Port Authority and LaGuardia Airport.”
Thank god 10 chargers that take 20 mins each are being installed at one of the highest traveled areas in the state.
They asked people for a period of a few hours in a record breaking heatwave with the largest amount of electrical consumption in California's history to wait on drawing power for anything that was not crucial. This meant asking people to not run things like electric dryers or charging electric vehicles if they did not have to at the time. It did no prohibit anyone who was in a situation where they needed to charge up at those exact times (or needed to run an electric dryer at exactly that time), but *requested* it. Since a single overnight charge is usually enough for modern EVs to add enough range for a couple of weeks, then having your vehicle charging timer commence after 9 pm wasn't exactly a crippling request. One thing to point out, which some people might be confused by, not charging does not mean that a gremlin reaches into your vehicle's battery and drains it--instead, the charge you already had in the vehicle remains there until you use it.
And great, it worked. None of the rolling blackouts that CA had hit even just two years ago and that's despite this time around being in record braking heat with the highest electricity consumption in CA history. Why then was that the case? A large part of it was because in the years since, CA had deployed GWhs of stationary storage (large battery complexes tied to the grid) in various parts of the grid. These serve the purpose of shifting production capacity in excess of demand to periods of time when demand may outstrip generation. That's exactly what happened in this scenario.
Something similar is sometimes done with peaker natural gas plants that can also kick into gear to offset any large supply shortfalls for a short period of time and some of these can kick in several minutes time. Batteries though are much, much faster at kicking in than even peaker natural gas plants, and as mentioned before, can also do a bit of arbitrage in taking in power when supply is greater than demand for use later. Now, how is it that in two years time this became a thing when it was prior to that almost completely absent from grids prior to that? The answer is the same as why EVs are so quickly improving their specs and taking new vehicle market share--the batteries are rapidly improving in various capacities such as gravimetric and volumetric density at exponential rates (about every 9 to 14 years) for the last several decades. This is generally tied to production learning curves and economies of scale as well as primary research, and that's been driven first by consumer electronics, then electric vehicle batteries, and from then, the research, development and scaling of production made it economically feasible (profitable!) to deploy grid scale batteries.
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