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They can't move jobs where your physical presence is required. Jobs in retail, construction, food service, leisure, hospitality, health care, etc. will be most affected I think.
I agree some of those jobs on the list are low paid like retail and food service. But health care can be high paying and NYC is full of doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, etc. Same for skilled tradesmen.
Then there's all kinds of random office jobs for white collar workers. Employers are pushing for an end to WFH so their reality will clash with this law. The greater evil is letting their expensive leased midtown office space sit empty vs just put a salary in the ad. I think they will choose the lesser evil.
Looking forward to this. As someone who spent 25 years as a corporate hack, always having to play a game of chicken with my employers regarding salary, I'll finally get to see exactly how much I was truly underpaid when my former company starts posting salaries. Can't wait.
An employer should have an idea what they should budget for a job advertised. As a job seeker, this saves time if salary is a very important factor. For eg, if the job description doesn’t outweigh salary consideration, they keep looking. This is a good law. We like data, don’t we ?
I don't disagree but I don't see how this law is enforced. Politicians like to create laws but there has to be a mechanism for enforcement. It's too easy to game the law which just means that it will be selectively enforced.
The most rational way to proceed for employers would be to list lowball salary ranges and have the candidate inquire about a higher salary.
I don't disagree but I don't see how this law is enforced. Politicians like to create laws but there has to be a mechanism for enforcement. It's too easy to game the law which just means that it will be selectively enforced.
The most rational way to proceed for employers would be to list lowball salary ranges and have the candidate inquire about a higher salary.
It's a hot job market. Even for some in demand jobs that are recession proof like an elevator repairman, low balling a job offer risks nobody responding to the ad except unqualified people. If I want to hire said repairman for $20/hr then my ad will remain unanswered.
I don't disagree but I don't see how this law is enforced. Politicians like to create laws but there has to be a mechanism for enforcement. It's too easy to game the law which just means that it will be selectively enforced.
The most rational way to proceed for employers would be to list lowball salary ranges and have the candidate inquire about a higher salary.
If Indeed.com want to play ball, it can make salary listing a required field for nyc metro. At the end of the day, companies will not want to be outliers by omitting salaries if most of their competitors provide it. Also I don’t see rationale to lowball candidates for two reasons - reputational and it simply won’t attract best candidates.
“This work is about the needs of the people of this city especially in this crisis,” de Blasio said this week, pointing to her running of his “racial equity” task force as well as (he’s so shameless) the universally criticized ThriveNYC mental health debacle.
I don't disagree but I don't see how this law is enforced. Politicians like to create laws but there has to be a mechanism for enforcement. It's too easy to game the law which just means that it will be selectively enforced.
The most rational way to proceed for employers would be to list lowball salary ranges and have the candidate inquire about a higher salary.
The first time offense has no monetary fine but subsequent ones can result in significant fines. Citigroup already was forced to post all numbers on jobs. Also, employers must post numbers in "good faith" so if you see jobs like $0-1900/hr then they can be fined.
It's a hot job market. Even for some in demand jobs that are recession proof like an elevator repairman, low balling a job offer risks nobody responding to the ad except unqualified people. If I want to hire said repairman for $20/hr then my ad will remain unanswered.
It wouldn't work this way when it becomes general knowledge that employers are low balling to skirt the law. Why were under the table cash jobs so popular in the 80's -2K's if they were (technically) highly illegal?
It's no different than "qualifications" on a listing. Everybody knows that HR throws the kitchen sink looking for that "purple squirrel" but if you even have 30% of what the listing wants, you're most likely "qualified" for the job.
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If Indeed.com want to play ball, it can make salary listing a required field for nyc metro. At the end of the day, companies will not want to be outliers by omitting salaries if most of their competitors provide it. Also I don’t see rationale to lowball candidates for two reasons - reputational and it simply won’t attract best candidates.
Companies aren't stupid. They compete (in the short run) but they also collude (in the long run).
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