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Immigrants coming in replacing those who have been here are of a lower class and education in general.
Its only natural for people with higher standards to flee to better places.
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I was challenging your assertion that obviously "less people is better". This is not obvious to me at all, and in my opinion purely subjective.
Clearly, the people who chose to live or move to NYC (or any other big city) disagree with this statement. It is also not obvious empirically or supported by data.
The people moving out of NYC specifically is another matter, and I suspect most people are moving out for completely other reasons, such as taxes, crime, weather, or other reasons that have nothing to do with the actual quantity of people living here.
2. Just wait.
Citizens come at a cost. That cost is paid by taxes, and those taxes are generated by somewhere.
Texas has long survived off oil profits, and Florida off tourism.
Larger resident populations does not generate more oil or tourism.
The tax must be spread further for each person, or raised.
States will eventually begin to feel a deficit, and react in a way that makes them less idyllic.
Citizens do not come at a cost, not in a capitalist economy at least. Citizens are only a "cost" in a closed socialist economy (which is why a lot of socialist economies are keen on culling their populations from time to time). In a capitalist society, generally, more citizens means higher GDP and higher economic output. The only reason why CA has the largest economy is literally because of the raw amount of people that live in highly urbanized areas.
The reason why taxes are higher in urban areas, is because citizens in urban areas demand much more services compared to citizens in rural or sparsely populated areas. In the US, urban areas also subsidize rural areas economically (regardless of political affiliation). Most rural areas in the US simply do not have enough people to maintain a paved highway, let alone a bridge. Prior to huge investments in rural infrastructure from US cities post WW2, most rural areas simply had dirt roads, and the goods were transported by commercial railroads that didn't even have stations in these sparsely populated areas they were cutting through.
It gives me a chuckle how people in the Florida forum are complaining how rents and COL have gone up with all the demand while their salaries have stagnated. And here I am happy to make enough to live well in NYC.
Are those all features of areas with a lot of population or simply local politics? For example, highest cost of living in the US is in very sparsely populated areas of Alaska where watermelon costs over $30 each. Tokyo is a lot more densely populated than Detroit and also a lot cleaner. Quality of life in sparsely populated Appalachia or rural Mississippi is a lot lower than even the Bronx.
At the same time, more densely populated areas offer bigger economies, more jobs, more amenities, more and better services, more opportunities, etc.
Alaska isn't really much of a comparison since most of the food there has to be flown in at exorbitant costs. NYC for what you get costs far more than most big cities in the US. I'm not comparing other countries. A place like Japan or Canada... They tend to be a lot cleaner in part because of cultural differences.
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I was challenging your assertion that obviously "less people is better". This is not obvious to me at all, and in my opinion purely subjective.
Clearly, the people who chose to live or move to NYC (or any other big city) disagree with this statement. It is also not obvious empirically or supported by data.
The people moving out of NYC specifically is another matter, and I suspect most people are moving out for completely other reasons, such as taxes, crime, weather, or other reasons that have nothing to do with the actual quantity of people living here.
Less people means less traffic, less pollution and congestion.
I loved Covid times. Roads were empty and morons all around were locked away in their apartments with masks on .
We did a lot of traveling and exploring during those times.
It is plausible that our population has increased due to the many millions of opportunistic thieves who snuck into the country illegally and are hiding in our corrupt city. They are everywhere with those big thieving grins on their faces. They are laughing at you for being foolish enough to allow them to get away with basically anything here.
But if you post an article online like this one, almost anyone will believe it.
I'd guess that a lot of NY State's population loss came from upstate rather than NYC. Upstate is mostly rural and economically depressed and has been losing population for years. Of course some left from the city as well and a lot of the might still be Covid-related.
People are getting the eff out of Dodge instead of remaining to fight the good fight.
What's left will run things and as that Hochul happily tells people, if you don't like it there's the door.
Only reason NYC isn't full on basket case like Detroit is same as Chicago; there's enough Wall Street/Financial big money (and others) to control worse excesses of woke, liberal, progressive democrats.
What you're going to end up with basically small to zero middle class, a huge portion of lower/illiterate or whatever class at one end and very wealthy at the other.
As far as NY States population decrease goes, I have to disagree with that one as well. There are plenty of the undocumented out there as well, and they probably increased the Upstate population. No decrease. They are absolutely everywhere. Just like in the rest of the world, plenty of them do not like big city living. Plenty just move to Upstate or plan to just use NYC as a staging area until they find a suburban region to invade next.
Why would a person correlate practically every subject about NYC to the presence of the undocumented invaders? Because that is the most immense thing happening right now. Our country is being invaded. They are quite literally the top priority of every single political move and every bad thing currently happening on the city ground and countrywide as a whole.
It is simply unbelievable how everyone in New York City is frightened to speak up about it.
The population is Not Decreasing anywhere except back in their home countries of which are mostly overcrowded.
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