Going to NYC....want to see the ghettos (New York, Bedford: living in, vs.)

[DoubleXAs]

Originally Posted by Rudbeckia

South Bronx is the poorest congressional district which confuses me, b/c I thought there were many middle class people living in the South Bronx, but maybe not.

Actually poor displaced people from Manhattan are moving into the Bronx. Where the heck did you get middle class from? Not only is the Bronx mostly made up of tenement buildings with government assistance you have tons and tons of projects in the Bronx. Buildings and Projects cover everything west of the Bronx river and below Bedford Park (huge chunk).....projects and some buildings cover the south east Bronx and Projects cover the north east Bronx.....where is there any let up?

[Rudbeckia]

Okay, I realize that the Bronx has many many poor people and projects, but I also thought it had a pretty large group of working class/middle class/people that are not poor but not wealthy whatever class you call that, mixed in. But I guess I'm wrong, you have lived there a long time right? So you would know better than I.

[cf77]

Originally Posted by Rudbeckia

Okay, I realize that the Bronx has many many poor people and projects, but I also thought it had a pretty large group of working class/middle class/people that are not poor but not wealthy whatever class you call that, mixed in. But I guess I'm wrong, you have lived there a long time right? So you would know better than I.

No you are right , while yes there is alot of projects in many areas of the bronx and a good amount of low income residents there are still MANY middle class residents mixed in with them.

[DoubleXAs]

Originally Posted by cf77

No you are right , while yes there is alot of projects in many areas of the bronx and a good amount of low income residents there are still MANY middle class residents mixed in with them.

In certain areas there are well-off people. But this number pales in comparison to the poor.

[Rudbeckia]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

In certain areas there are well-off people. But this number pales in comparison to the poor.

What would your guess be for the percentage of people in the Bronx working and supporting themselves vs the number of people living off the government?

[cf77]

Im not just saying well off people but average working class people too. You make the entire Bronx out to be just one whole Gov't assisted boro. Yes it does have very poor areas but that dosnt speak for the rest of the Bronx.

[DoubleXAs]

Originally Posted by Rudbeckia

What would your guess be for the percentage of people in the Bronx working and supporting themselves vs people living off the government?

Well it would be skewed because you have to be a citizen to receive public assistance. 20% of the Bronx is Dominican alone and most of the are not citizens. So while they are as poor as any Puerto Rican or Black person they wouldn't recieve public assistance. But lets assume that they all did.

I would say 65% on public assistance....35% working.

If we took it as it were...were only PR and blacks and a few DR's received help....I would say

40% public assistance....60% working.....but a large amount of the working are below poverty Dominicans just trying to make ends meet.

[bx718]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

......This year the Bronx despite having the 2nd fewest amount of people in any borough has by far the most homicides.......

The crime level in an area is not neccessarily directly proportional to it's population size - the education level, the income, the population density, the family stability etc, are more realistic crime influencing factors...... Also, even though the bronx has the 2nd lowest population, it has the second lowest square mileage.

[DoubleXAs]

You mean that its the second most dense borough?

[BXGEAR]

Many people in the north Bronx own their homes