Governor Hochul signs bill to create reperations commission (Boston, Mexico: sale, real estate)
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I'm late to this party, and haven't read through the whole thread. So maybe someone has gone here already. But...
Any arguments anyone might cobble together in favor of reparations are essential irrelevant. There's very high probability that any attempt to impose reparations will get shot down by the courts on constitutional grounds due to the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
I dont see how the equal protection clause has anything to do with reparations
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"The man who sleeps on the floor, can never fall out of bed." -Martin Lawrence
All I simply said was that the free labor was provided to America, America benefitted off the backs of others for free, so that's who should take responsibility to right the wrongs infracted upon its Black citizens.
As trite as this may sound, it wasn't exactly "free" labor, as you continually mention. The slave owner had to feed, clothe, and provide housing for the people who worked for them. And I looked through the attachment that you provided, which supposedly mentioned the companies that benefitted from slavery. I was quite surprised, when my eye caught the name, 'Brooks Brothers'. These days, BB is a "high end" men's clothier, so I found it rather confusing.
Then the notation said that BB made clothing for the slave owners, who, in turn, dressed their people in it. SO, the conclusion that you're jumping to, is that a "for profit" clothing company should not have made for, and sold clothing, to a slave owner? But because they did, they should be made to pay reparations??
Talk about a classic "stretch" of the situation, in order to rile up the crowd!! Seems to me, that SOMEBODY had to make the clothing. Would it have been better if no company at all, made clothing for the workers, and they walked around naked?
As trite as this may sound, it wasn't exactly "free" labor, as you continually mention. The slave owner had to feed, clothe, and provide housing for the people who worked for them. And I looked through the attachment that you provided, which supposedly mentioned the companies that benefitted from slavery. I was quite surprised, when my eye caught the name, 'Brooks Brothers'. These days, BB is a "high end" men's clothier, so I found it rather confusing.
Then the notation said that BB made clothing for the slave owners, who, in turn, dressed their people in it. SO, the conclusion that you're jumping to, is that a "for profit" clothing company should not have made for, and sold clothing, to a slave owner? But because they did, they should be made to pay reparations??
Talk about a classic "stretch" of the situation, in order to rile up the crowd!! Seems to me, that SOMEBODY had to make the clothing. Would it have been better if no company at all, made clothing for the workers, and they walked around naked?
Hello - free as in not receiving wages for labor performed
I can't believe you're trying to make good points for American slavery
Actually I can believe it
Somebody had to make the whips too
And also, don't call it work. Slaveowners didn't give pensions last I checked
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Hello - free as in not receiving wages for labor performed
I can't believe you're trying to make good points for American slavery
Actually I can believe it
Somebody had to make the whips too
And also, don't call it work. Slaveowners didn't give pensions last I checked
Pension is a mute point as the first pension plan was started by the American Express Railroad Company in 1875 and pensions were not the norm until the mid-20th century. Civil war ended in 1865.
There were many indentured servants - Irish, Italian ect - who supposedly may have been paid - but then did not receive that paycheck because the indenturer kept it for food, housing and clothing and of course paying off the money spent on the passage for those indentured servants to get here.
What's done is done - blacks have received more than any other group to pay them back when you look at the handouts that have been given to them for centuries now. And as you say - if you don't like it - leave and move. Minorities have it better here than in any other country and why they all want to come here.
As trite as this may sound, it wasn't exactly "free" labor, as you continually mention. The slave owner had to feed, clothe, and provide housing for the people who worked for them. And I looked through the attachment that you provided, which supposedly mentioned the companies that benefitted from slavery. I was quite surprised, when my eye caught the name, 'Brooks Brothers'. These days, BB is a "high end" men's clothier, so I found it rather confusing.
Then the notation said that BB made clothing for the slave owners, who, in turn, dressed their people in it. SO, the conclusion that you're jumping to, is that a "for profit" clothing company should not have made for, and sold clothing, to a slave owner? But because they did, they should be made to pay reparations??
Talk about a classic "stretch" of the situation, in order to rile up the crowd!! Seems to me, that SOMEBODY had to make the clothing. Would it have been better if no company at all, made clothing for the workers, and they walked around naked?
Those lists of companies are usually based on a ridiculous amount of stock transfers in the years between 1865 and now.
So current company A is really separated from slave owning company B by 20 steps but, well, someone has to pay right? It’s all a joke.
Pension is a mute point as the first pension plan was started by the American Express Railroad Company in 1875 and pensions were not the norm until the mid-20th century. Civil war ended in 1865.
Semantics, but facts are facts
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Originally Posted by xray731
There were many indentured servants - Irish, Italian ect - who supposedly may have been paid - but then did not receive that paycheck because the indenturer kept it for food, housing and clothing and of course paying off the money spent on the passage for those indentured servants to get here.
So? What's your point? Why not call them slaves then instead of indentured servants?
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Originally Posted by xray731
What's done is done - blacks have received more than any other group to pay them back when you look at the handouts that have been given to them for centuries now. And as you say - if you don't like it - leave and move. Minorities have it better here than in any other country and why they all want to come here.
If you don't like Black people just say so
I don't understand why you would not want the best for Black people after all the damage that has been inflicted upon them
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"The man who sleeps on the floor, can never fall out of bed." -Martin Lawrence
What's done is done - blacks have received more than any other group to pay them back when you look at the handouts that have been given to them for centuries now. And as you say - if you don't like it - leave and move. Minorities have it better here than in any other country and why they all want to come here.
Free backpacks, school supplies, prom dresses. Trained from childhood.
Free backpacks, school supplies, prom dresses. Trained from childhood.
If you don't like Black people just say so
I don't understand why you would not want the best for Black people after all the damage that has been inflicted upon them
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"The man who sleeps on the floor, can never fall out of bed." -Martin Lawrence
If you don't like Black people just say so
I don't understand why you would not want the best for Black people after all the damage that has been inflicted upon them
That was the other way around for me working with them.
Calm down everyone. The pay out will never happen. It’s all just a circus show.
I'm afraid it will. Like all bad ideas such as "congestion pricing" once things start circling, we all go down the drain.
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