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Old 07-29-2008, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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If you believe easiest = most affordable..it is hands down the Bronx..your money will go the farthest and your housing options will be ABUNDANT.
Yeah but I wouldn't consider 90% of the Bronx Middle class. The major issue with the Bronx for your average middle class family is that most of the public schools are horrible. At least in most of Queens, Brookly, and Staten Island the public schools, are usually decent.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Weehawken, NJ
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If you believe easiest = most affordable..it is hands down the Bronx..your money will go the farthest and your housing options will be ABUNDANT.

Is there a lot of good areas? I thought most of the Bronx was bad?
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Weehawken, NJ
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Yeah but I wouldn't consider 90% of the Bronx Middle class. The major issue with the Bronx for your average middle class family is that most of the public schools are horrible. At least in most of Queens, Brookly, and Staten Island the public schools, are usually decent.

That's what I thought. What percentage do you think would be considered middle class.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Queens
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That's what I thought. What percentage do you think would be considered middle class.
What do you consider to be the middle class?
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Weehawken, NJ
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What do you consider to be the middle class?
I would say people that can afford to pay their bills and other life expenses and have money left over for entertainment and savings. I guess just above living check to check and up but not too high to be able to buy anything they want and not worry about it. Also be able to live in a half decent neighborhood (I am far from picky I have live from check to check before and have live in not so hot neighborhoods.) not the projects and not have to struggle that much. I don't know if any of those definitions make any sense but that's what I think of.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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What middle class? Come to Jamaica Queens and under neath those roofs of what look like single family houses is alot of multi-family/illegal basement renting going on. Either your making it with ease or your barely surviving in this town for the most part
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:47 PM
 
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Default Middle Class in NYC

Hi Dorian,

You are right about your assessment. It's much more difficult for the "middle class" in NYC than other parts of the country... or I should just say life's different in NYC. Unless your family has been in NYC for generations and bought sth at some point, there are good chances you will rent for life (astronomical rent that is, compared to the rest of the country). An example would be the family where both parents are working any job that requires a Master's Degree or higher renting a 2 BR apartment in Manhattan, or a young couple, with similiar or higher credentials, renting a 2 or 3 BR in Bay Ridge (regarded as nice), or a family in the Northern Bronx (which is much nicer than the Southern Bronx). Watch out for public school districts if that's important for you - they can be very bad. My advice would be to stay away from the Elmhurst and Jamaica areas (Queens) and from central Brooklyn and from the South Bronx. More areas could be added to that list I'm sure...
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Bay Ridge, NY
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Hey! I went to a great elementary school in Elmhurst!
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Midcoast Maine
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Yeah I know that it has a different definition in every area that's why I put middle class or working class. I do have a family too. I guess I will say between $50,000 and $75,000 a year for a family of four. What is the definition of middle and working class in NYC? What is the poverty line?
Oh, goodness. I don't know how a family of four would make it on a range of $50-75,000/year anywhere in NYC. A family of four with an income of $61,000 qualifies for Public Housing (projects) here.
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Yeah but I wouldn't consider 90% of the Bronx Middle class. The major issue with the Bronx for your average middle class family is that most of the public schools are horrible. At least in most of Queens, Brookly, and Staten Island the public schools, are usually decent.
Most of the schools in the more stable Bronx communities [like Morris Park or Riverdale] are actually quite decent, judging from insiderschools.org. It's only High School thats a issue in the Bronx.
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