Sanitation Exam (vacations, town, compare)

[FULLTRUCK]

Originally Posted by sputnikk

anybody out there know how to get
the rules of doing baskets. so many
people say you can do this or that...
but are these rules actually in print
somewhere? some teletype or general
order. too many people saying they
heard you can do this or cant do
that... there just has to be some
actual piece of paper out there.

There is no rulebook. The general orders have accumulated over the years like a patchwork quilt to fill in the blanks. This is only in an effort to cover the city from legal actions.

Technically you are NOT to block the intersection while swinging the hopper to the basket. You are to bring the nose of the truck in line with the stop sign and drag the basket to the hopper. This is true.

If you are servicing a high-end basket then you must sweep out the inside. Also sweep the corner if there is a considerable amount of debris. This is all supposed to be done.

(Even pulling weeds around the corner caps is a task that we are supposed to do.)

In the name of productivity everything had gone out the window. If we performed the job that way we should we'd be lucky to do half of a standard route. So over the years all the wrong things have been encouraged by management and the men alike. Now a sub-standard job is performed and risk of injury, to the men and public, is ten-fold due to all the rushing.

Sadly, if you were to perform it correctly you are considered to be "playing games" and fitted for a target on your back.

Of course if you were to run over a child while bringing the hopper to the basket...... That's when the general order gets photo-copied and put together with your 350 and all the other forms of the day... and sent with you to your disciplinary hearing....

The examples are endless. Have you not stood at role-call and heard your sleepy 12-8 foreman half jokingly ramble through a general order like... "You are not allowed to stand behind the hopper while it's cycling, you must stand clear until it completely stops..."

I mean, c'mon! If you did that on your route you wouldn't finish and get a complaint!! Don't even get me started on the new seat belt rules.....

[vantastic10]

The 2009 DSNY Annual Report is out, thanks to Garbage time for letting me know.

DSNY - Public Information - Annual Reports

[GRAPES24]

Originally Posted by vantastic10

The 2009 DSNY Annual Report is out, thanks to Garbage time for letting me know.

DSNY - Public Information - Annual Reports

56 pages of useless information.

[vantastic10]

Originally Posted by GRAPES24

56 pages of useless information.

They have been using the same photo for Bloomberg and Doherty for several years now on there. Not surprised to read about the high turnover rate for WEP's assigned to DSNY worksites.

[606313X]

Originally Posted by vantastic10

The 2009 DSNY Annual Report is out, thanks to Garbage time for letting me know.

DSNY - Public Information - Annual Reports

"Doing More With Less" right on the front cover.......pathetic

[606313X]

Originally Posted by FULLTRUCK

There is no rulebook. The general orders have accumulated over the years like a patchwork quilt to fill in the blanks. This is only in an effort to cover the city from legal actions.

Technically you are NOT to block the intersection while swinging the hopper to the basket. You are to bring the nose of the truck in line with the stop sign and drag the basket to the hopper. This is true.

If you are servicing a high-end basket then you must sweep out the inside. Also sweep the corner if there is a considerable amount of debris. This is all supposed to be done.

(Even pulling weeds around the corner caps is a task that we are supposed to do.)

In the name of productivity everything had gone out the window. If we performed the job that way we should we'd be lucky to do half of a standard route. So over the years all the wrong things have been encouraged by management and the men alike. Now a sub-standard job is performed and risk of injury, to the men and public, is ten-fold due to all the rushing.

Sadly, if you were to perform it correctly you are considered to be "playing games" and fitted for a target on your back.

Of course if you were to run over a child while bringing the hopper to the basket...... That's when the general order gets photo-copied and put together with your 350 and all the other forms of the day... and sent with you to your disciplinary hearing....

The examples are endless. Have you not stood at role-call and heard your sleepy 12-8 foreman half jokingly ramble through a general order like... "You are not allowed to stand behind the hopper while it's cycling, you must stand clear until it completely stops..."

I mean, c'mon! If you did that on your route you wouldn't finish and get a complaint!! Don't even get me started on the new seat belt rules.....

In my district, there is only one way to do baskets..and that is to clean out every single high end. Spotless. And only do 4 or 5 lines. Especially if they haven't been done in 4 or 5 days!!! If your partner indicates to you that the high end is full (besides the overflowing pail) then don't enter the intersection, broom and shovel it, help your partner tip the can, and cycle the hopper. The baskets you don't get to will be there tomorrow.
Not having a step will (at least where I work) ensure that the route will not be completed.

[DSNYSICandidate]

What's the new Seat Belt rule??

[FULLTRUCK]

Originally Posted by DSNYSICandidate

What's the new Seat Belt rule??

Within the last few years an unfortunate accident occurred. A young rookie sanman doing relays from Manhattan to Jersey crashed and was thrown from his truck to his death. He was not wearing his seat belt.

Within a few weeks a general order was issued with enhanced requirements and penalties for seat belt usage. For decades you were to wear your seat belt to and from your route. You were not required to wear your seat belt on the route.

Now all occupants of the truck must wear seat belts AT ALL TIMES.

Have you been wearing your seat belt while servicing your route? Has a foreman checked for compliance of the general order? No. Absolutely not.

Why? Simple. The order is counter-productive. Very counter-productive. So, again we see the department establish a rule to protect itself. Not enforce it. Then hang it over your head as a threat. No small threat either. Very difficult to refute if you had it off and it carries a stiff penalty of one day suspension. Increasing with each subsequent violation. 2 days for second, 3 days for 4th, etc, etc...

Where is the union in all this? They should be screaming for the re-establishment of our routes while executing this new safety requirement.

There have been several of these issued recently and in a more than erroneous manner. Downright lies.

Wake up.

[vantastic10]

Was this the incident that you were talking about fulltruck?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/29/ny...29garbage.html

[DSNYSICandidate]

Congrats, to all the men and women who were able to get their transfer. Today is a beautiful
day.