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View Poll Results: In your opinion is crime citywide up or down since 2005?
Up 89 47.85%
Down 97 52.15%
Voters: 186. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-20-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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Yes it was some crazy dude with a gun trying to shoot his girlfriend..no surprises there or anything new. You associate with people who like to carry guns/drug deal...that's 80% of the people who are killed in NYC, so what do you think is gonna happen? There is not alot of random violence.....no matter what neighborhood you are in....if you are not chilling with the drug dealers, or hanging with the homeys at the bodega at 3am, or chillin with your crew in the housing projects, you have VERY LITTLE chance of anything happening to you in NYC. If you use your brain and common sense..you won't have a problem.

 
Old 04-20-2009, 06:04 PM
 
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Yes it was some crazy dude with a gun trying to shoot his girlfriend..no surprises there or anything new. You associate with people who like to carry guns/drug deal...that's 80% of the people who are killed in NYC, so what do you think is gonna happen? There is not alot of random violence.....no matter what neighborhood you are in....if you are not chilling with the drug dealers, or hanging with the homeys at the bodega at 3am, or chillin with your crew in the housing projects, you have VERY LITTLE chance of anything happening to you in NYC. If you use your brain and common sense..you won't have a problem.
Thats always been the case any time period and any place.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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That is not true KRS...there was a period of about 25 years, 1970-1995 where there was ALOT of random violence that fueled much of the exodus and ultimate deterioration of many neighborhoods across the city. The reason why it is safer across the board is because much of the random violence is gone, and the vast majority of victims are those that are involved in the drug trade. So TODAY the reality is if you stay away from the drug dealers, you will be ok no matter where you are, in general.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 07:11 PM
 
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Alot of cops and an ambulence in my block today. I dont know what happened though.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 10:06 PM
 
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That is not true KRS...there was a period of about 25 years, 1970-1995 where there was ALOT of random violence that fueled much of the exodus and ultimate deterioration of many neighborhoods across the city. The reason why it is safer across the board is because much of the random violence is gone, and the vast majority of victims are those that are involved in the drug trade. So TODAY the reality is if you stay away from the drug dealers, you will be ok no matter where you are, in general.

I was talking about homicides only but maybe in the 70s they used to kill random people on the street for fun I dont know that time period I only remember NYC from 86 on.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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Well KRS this is why you should educate yourself and learn about the history of NYC so you can create an informed opinion based on research, and not just "what you remember." Too many people have no concept of NYC other than drugs, abandoned/deteriorated areas and poor people of color..when historically (as in everything before the last 40 years or so) it was none of those things. Crime continues to decrease, despite the usual high profile cases, streets are safer, and communities are healthier. Is it perfect? Heck no...never has been. Is it improving? I say YES.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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Firstly I am informed about the history Im just baseing the info on what I known for the last 23 years. Secondly your community is not the trademark for the rest of the low income neighborhoods crime rates.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 02:15 PM
 
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Actually my community is representative of typical higher crime communities in NYC, and the poster child of everything that went wrong in NYC for that matter...it is the most famous "ghetto" in the US. Nevertheless, crime is down...
 
Old 04-22-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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sobroguy where in the bronx are you?

btw do you think nyc will finish with more or less than 500 murders this year?
 
Old 04-22-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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I am in Woodstock (which is just North of Mott Haven around 149st). I dont think anyone knows whether NYC will be under the 500 murder mark, however murders are substantially below where they were last year. I believe the first quarter of last year we had 116 murder, and the first quarter of this year was 89, a 24% drop, and below the 118 murders for the first quarter of 1962 (first year they began tracking). That is a significant drop, and really surprised most people, even me! However, the murder rate has been dropping for years, so it is in line with the trend. If you were to forecast based on the 89 number for the first quarter, then for the year the total could be 89 murders x 4 quarters = 356 murders for 2009! WOW...that would be amazingly low! Is this likely? Who knows...maybe this first quarter is a fluke and it will skyrocket, or maybe it will be lower. We don't know yet, however the trends are for a declining crime rate, and although many naysayers on hear always claim that crime is skyrocketing and NYC is sinking into a chaotic crime state, the FACTS dispute that...and NYC continues to get safer. Only time will tell, nevertheless, NOBODY would have predicted the steep decline...especially the naysayers.
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