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Old 11-13-2008, 10:41 PM
 
Location: New York
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Can not believe that the city/state shelled out $3 billion of our tax loot to fix up Willets Point Blvd near Shea Stadium. This area has been home to industrial businesses since the time before the great Gatsby. It is a low area barely above sea level that was once a swamp. Everything over there floods when it rains and the area has rats the size of beavers. There is a serious rodent issue. On top of the rodents, the horrendously polluted flushing creek smells like raw sewage at low tide the whole entire summer. it is a famous smell for area residents.

They are building luxury condos in this mess? What a joke. This city is crying out for a diversified economy and the dopes in charge, too stupid to realize what they are doing invest more in the shipwreck. Once again they follow the same formula and go for the Luxury condo routine, a creative bone is not part of their skeleton. The area was vital as it housed industrial businesses like scrap metal, auto parts, junk yards and many auto repair shops. The area filled a vital niche. It was a good area for this type of business considering the flooding, smells and rodent issues. Now with our tax money surely going to corruption people people will lose their jobs and the glut of luxury condos will increase.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Queens
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Flushing Creek is a swamp, which makes it a step above Newtown Creek, but still a swamp... I live by Alley Pond and you have the same smell if you make the mistake of venturing into the swampy area just south of Northern Boulevard, which is devoid of industry... even outside of Alley Pond the swamp that separates Douglaston from Little Neck north of Northern smells like low tide even when the tide is high (but I'm holding on...)... it's the way swamps smell, they'd have to reclaim the whole northern section of Flushing Meadows to get rid of the smell... let's just say there are reason why no one ever developed anything at the northern end of either park, and back in Fitzgerald's day the former was merely a "valley of ashes."
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:50 AM
 
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Can not believe that the city/state shelled out $3 billion of our tax loot to fix up Willets Point Blvd near Shea Stadium. This area has been home to industrial businesses since the time before the great Gatsby. It is a low area barely above sea level that was once a swamp. Everything over there floods when it rains and the area has rats the size of beavers. There is a serious rodent issue. On top of the rodents, the horrendously polluted flushing creek smells like raw sewage at low tide the whole entire summer. it is a famous smell for area residents.

They are building luxury condos in this mess? What a joke. This city is crying out for a diversified economy and the dopes in charge, too stupid to realize what they are doing invest more in the shipwreck. Once again they follow the same formula and go for the Luxury condo routine, a creative bone is not part of their skeleton. The area was vital as it housed industrial businesses like scrap metal, auto parts, junk yards and many auto repair shops. The area filled a vital niche. It was a good area for this type of business considering the flooding, smells and rodent issues. Now with our tax money surely going to corruption people people will lose their jobs and the glut of luxury condos will increase.


It's not all grim at all. Just one excerpt from the article:

"The revamped plan includes an 850-seat school and a mandatory level of permanent affordable housing. In general, 35 percent of the 5,500 planned units must be affordable, with 250 units exclusively for those earning 30 percent of the annual median income. Today, the figure would be $23,000 for a family of four."
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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So they are building more affordable housing and revamping an abandoned chop-shop area and making it into a residential neighborhood? I'm having a hard time seeing how this is not a good thing and an improvement for the area.
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:56 AM
 
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So they are building more affordable housing and revamping an abandoned chop-shop area and making it into a residential neighborhood? I'm having a hard time seeing how this is not a good thing and an improvement for the area.
Exactly how I feel!
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Another reason not to vote for Bloomberg. The list keeps growing,,,
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:11 AM
 
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This happens as Bloomberg cuts police force and unemployment is going up. Since he is the almighty judge of who is the best mayor candidate, saying he is the best to lead the city forward to the point where he changes laws to do so, he should know a thing or two but he is delusional. He needs to wake up and realize we are only at the tip of the iceberg in recession. The United States is losing its competitive advantage and with New York at the forefront of the economy, there will be hard times ahead.

By making every corner of the city yuppy and allowing less people to become cops he really wants to leave his mark on the city Robert Moses style by transforming it into what his poor vision is - an urban disney world void of deep roots and chock full of jet setting pseudo cultured types who plan to take their $10m savings and move back to Texarkana to raise kids. He is playing Sim City with a city he has zero roots in yet his hometown Boston seems to be unscathed. But what happens when Bloomberg overdevelops everything and jobs are cut in NY. People wont come as much and there will be an empty overdeveloped city Miami style.
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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This happens as Bloomberg cuts police force and unemployment is going up. Since he is the almighty judge of who is the best mayor candidate, saying he is the best to lead the city forward to the point where he changes laws to do so, he should know a thing or two but he is delusional. He needs to wake up and realize we are only at the tip of the iceberg in recession. The United States is losing its competitive advantage and with New York at the forefront of the economy, there will be hard times ahead.

By making every corner of the city yuppy and allowing less people to become cops he really wants to leave his mark on the city Robert Moses style by transforming it into what his poor vision is - an urban disney world void of deep roots and chock full of jet setting pseudo cultured types who plan to take their $10m savings and move back to Texarkana to raise kids. He is playing Sim City with a city he has zero roots in yet his hometown Boston seems to be unscathed. But what happens when Bloomberg overdevelops everything and jobs are cut in NY. People wont come as much and there will be an empty overdeveloped city Miami style.
Right on!
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:19 AM
 
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But what happens when Bloomberg overdevelops everything and jobs are cut in NY. People wont come as much and there will be an empty overdeveloped city Miami style.
I hear you regarding the concerns of overdevelopment. I do think that Miami was somewhat different, though. While Miami is attractive to many wealthy Latin Americans, Europeans, wealthy out of towners as a second home haven, we have here in NYC a crying demand for more housing for people who intend to make this their permanent home.

Yep, we do have those second home owners here too and yep, we do seem to have a disproportionate amount of luxury units going up to attract the same cadre. We've got to keep the pressure that any development includes substantial affordable housing for those for whom NYC is a home not a playground.
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:20 AM
 
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Have you seen what this area looks like? It is nothing like New York City. It looks like one of those business street of a very poor city in a third world country somewhere.

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