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The white middle class abandoned New York City in the 1950's-80's. In part because of cheaper, better housing in the suburbs, but also because they were fleeing the taxes, housing projects, crime and "grit" imposed on them by Manhattan Marxists. The massive middle class flight of the second half of the 20th century had nothing whatsoever to do with the yuppies: in their vast majority, they had left long before there was a single yuppie sighting anywhere outside of the UES.
So you dont think that lots of LI's young hawt italian are moving into the "city" like all the other young kids across the country to become yupps
I mean there is really nothing left for them on Strong Guyland to keep them there
If they want the fab life they have to come west to NYC
Nah I don't see it. Maybe your seeing a recent trend that I haven't caught on to yet.
A lot of yups are Jewish or WASP's.
Italians are still overwhelmingly moving out of the city. A lot of young LI people commute from LI and work in the city. They live with their parents or family. They are sort of in a limbo, or an extended young adulthood. This has been well documented of the current twenty-something generation. They want to work in the city but can't really afford LI on their own. Many of these young Lawn Islanders can barely afford LI, let's not even talk about Manhattan.
LI is losing a lot of its young people but I doubt those that eventually move out, move into the city. But again maybe there is a recent trend I am not yet aware of. But until stats prove otherwise I have to disagree.
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Outside of sten island? Howard Beach. Everyone left for jersey,long island,and staten island when we saw the resident tourists tranplants coming. We like close knit neighborhoods where we can raise our kids.
Outside of the Arthur Avenue stretch which has quite a few Italian owned businesses, Belmont is not really that Italian. It's a mostly Black, Hispanic, and Albanian neighborhood now. Morris Park has a much larger Italian community, but even that neighborhood is considered mixed.
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Nah I don't see it. Maybe your seeing a recent trend that I haven't caught on to yet.
A lot of yups are Jewish or WASP's.
Italians are still overwhelmingly moving out of the city. A lot of young LI people commute from LI and work in the city. They live with their parents or family. They are sort of in a limbo, or an extended young adulthood. This has been well documented of the current twenty-something generation. They want to work in the city but can't really afford LI on their own. Many of these young Lawn Islanders can barely afford LI, let's not even talk about Manhattan.
LI is losing a lot of its young people but I doubt those that eventually move out, move into the city. But again maybe there is a recent trend I am not yet aware of. But until stats prove otherwise I have to disagree.
I have to agree. Most of the young in Manhattan are Jewish and Wasp not Italians. It's very expensive to live and enjoy the city without tons of cash. A lot, not all but a lot of Italian families never really pushed their kids to attend college and pursue white collar jobs opting for blue collar instead.
Italians use to have a stronghold in NYC proper itself. But many of them have moved to the suburbs such as Long Island, New Jersey, Westchester County, etc.
The two borough's that saw the most Italian decrease was Manhattan and the Bronx. Little Italy and Italian Harlem (Spanish Harlem
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