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Old 04-09-2009, 12:13 AM
Location: northeast
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if this thread is any useful indicator of peoples thoughts on the stadium, then it seems to me that the stadium is worthless, overly expensive, and hardly anyone will go to it. it makes one ponder why anyone would build a new stadium during one of the worst recessions in history? hmmmm. does bloomberg simply want nyc's already growing $4b deficit to get worst?

Old 04-09-2009, 12:20 AM
Location: northeast
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btw (im notorious for double posting), remember, it was only a $12b deficit that made nyc's name go from "fun" city to "fear" city in the late 70's. a deficit is not a joke. bloomberg better keep an eye on it closely or we could be replaying the horrible 70's here folks.
Old 04-09-2009, 02:47 AM
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going to a baseball game to me is kind of like my view on camping.... as a kid i never wanted to go camping .. why? because i lived in a house... why would i want to live in the woods, pee in the grass, eat food with bugs getting in it and have to cut my own wood for a fire

the answer is because when i tried it i loved it, it was the whole experience that made it end up being fun.

a baseball game is the whole expierince , its the warm beer, that raunchy hot dog , the souveniers etc..

to me once you start removing the parts your removing alot of the expierence.

like i said when i think of going to a ball game i think french fries,,the game itself bores me to death 90% of the time....

to be reduced to taking a family of 4 to sit in the bleachers to watch little dots on the field and no food or drinks to me sucks the life out of being there and the cost of doing the game the way i like it is far to costly for a typical family. especially if your from out of town where wages can be considerably lower then ny wages.........

sorry but the players priced the games to the point all my outlook of the experience is sucked out of it

the corporate boxes have been priced so high we wont buy them anymore... from the looks of it neither will others... the advertising around the scoreboard is still mostly blank. the boxes behind home plate are unsold and empty. it looked crazy when the camera shot down homeplate and you saw empty boxes
Old 04-09-2009, 04:45 AM
Location: Bloomsburg, PA
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Default the experience...

I usually eat before I enter the stadium. Just like I eat before I go to the grocery store. After the game, I used to go to Astor Place to have a snack. The Astor Riviera is gone as well as the old stadium. I'll go to the new stadium once. That's all I'll need, unless my friend has an extra ticket!
Old 04-09-2009, 05:36 AM
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ken the best part for me is going to the supermarket after our cardio routine .... oh man the stuff i come home with.... id never try any of that stuff if i was full ha ha ha
Old 04-09-2009, 08:41 AM
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BMW..you are taking the posts way too personal. I understand your opinion, and opinions can be wrong. I used to have the opinion that a black man would never be president, and that our country was not prepared for it..and that was wrong. I also understand people don't like being nickled and dimed to death, I certianly don't like it either, so I choose not to patronize those places, or if I do, I spend as little as possible so as not to ruin my experience. If we all agreed there would be no discussions and this board would not exist, so don't take it personal. If Yankee stadium were in Riverdale, my opinion would not change...it is more of an issue of "you know what it costs, so choose to pony up or move on." The same standard applies to every other institution, product, service, venue etc....everyone draws the line somewhere (as Ruby stated), and you have chosen to draw the line where you see fit. I personally don't like watching baseball games, they are long and boring, nor did I enjoy going to the stadium, exposed to the elements, sitting too far to see anything, or paying ridiculous prices for food and beverages (that was BEFORE the new Yankee stadium). Nor do I like supporting the outrageous and bloated salaries/drugs use of these players...and since this is a discretionary item...I can easily save my money for things that are more pleasureable for me, and contribute more to our society...so I take my business elsewhere. Nevertheless, I will see a game, or rather, buy the cheapy tickets to get access to the stadium, watch a couple innings, and spend the rest of the time touring the stadium and as many facilities as I can. The end. (and by the way, if you cannot find a way to "afford" a hot dog and soda for your kid, you have bigger problems to worry about than the costs at yankee stadium).
Old 04-09-2009, 08:43 AM
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On a side note BMW, what makes you believe that it is a fact that Yankee stadium has "exacted an already disproportionately heavy toll on the community." Do you live in the community? Or are you basing your opinions on the rhetoric you read in the newspapers?
Old 04-09-2009, 12:24 PM
Location: Washington, DC & New York
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I am called out by name and then proceeded to be yelled at with entire statements in ALL CAPS and I'm taking it too personally? I can understand some caps for emphasis on a particular word or two, but entire statements? That's screaming, and I don't tolerate such behavior from from anyone. Sorry, but that's my policy.

For me, it's not a question of being able to afford it, which I think came through quite clearly when I stated that it was cutting off a good part of the fan base with the increases who do not have the finances to continue to enjoy games as they had in the past. It's a twinge of conscience, especially considering the parkland was essentially stolen from the community in a last second deal in Albany to coddle a sports team. And, I know all about the faux parkland on top of garages and a waterside promenade, which does not help a community that does not have much open space and huge problems with asthma, since a paved promenade is not the same as an open field no matter how pretty it may look.

Why does it matter if one lives in immediate proximity of the stadium? I do not see what that has to do with being able to have an informed opinion, and I am not so influenced by the newspaper since I do have critical thinking skills. For those who do live near the stadium, I hope that the promised amenities do come, since there have been projects shelved in other areas of the city that were promised.

And, an opinion is just that, it's neither right or wrong, and while there can be misinformed opinions, when one has facts and takes another side of a discussion, said person's opinion is not invalidated because it's not shared by those who assert a contrary view. With that, I leave this discussion.
Old 04-09-2009, 12:47 PM
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I don't call out your name..I am referencing your name so people know who I am responding to. And yes I do caps...I emphasize points differently than you, that's all. If we were in public I would not shout at you, unless I had to of course =). I was asking why you thought the stadium exacted a heavy toll...I believe someone who actually lives in the community would know better than someone who reads opinions from the NY Post, or listens to some people's comments on msg boards. As someone who lives in the area, I can tell you that Yankee stadium IS part of the community and defines it, and not some random outside presence..it has been there longer than just about every living person that resides there now. True they have taken parkland, but they are also replacing it with better parkland that is new with better amenitiees, as well as opening the waterfront for the community, an amenity they did not have before. NO matter what Yankee stadium did, even if it created 10x more parkland than it removed, there will always be a group crying foul, and the papers will feature them on the front page, and people will assume they are representative of the community. The reality is, the community is happy to have the new Yankee stadium, and although they lost some parkland, it is quantity vs quality..they are getting slightly less, but much better parkland in its place. Nevermind the major infrastructure improvements and new retail that is coming with it. As I said before, I will see the new Stadium, but they won't be getting my money, then again, they weren't getting my money before!
Old 04-09-2009, 02:14 PM
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