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Old 07-10-2009, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Boston
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2 words. public transportation.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: a bar
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Only during the summer
You spend summers in FL and winters in NYC??
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:28 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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You spend summers in FL and winters in NYC??
And his Jewish grandparents retired to NYC. What's so weird about that?
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Albany (school) NYC (home)
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And his Jewish grandparents retired to NYC. What's so weird about that?
Seems like the opposite of what it should. Summers in NYC and winters in Florida is the norm.

Anyway there really isn't any space to put 4 more extra lanes onto each Highway.
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:55 PM
 
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Robert Moses wanted to demolish large chunks of Manhattan and ram through several freeway routes, including a "Mid-Manhattan Expressway" called I-495 that would have run directly north of 29th St.

Fortunately, these plans were shot down. Boston's experience with the Central Artery shows that it's a bad idea to slice and dice up dense, urban neighborhoods with freeways.
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Old 07-10-2009, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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1. The highways might not be the widest, but there are a lot of them and they form a web pattern.

2. Public transit.
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Old 07-10-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Back home in Kaguawagpjpa.
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Two factors:

1 would be the density.

This is the most dense metro area in the nation, and the largest. In the core surrounding areas, the density is even higher, so it is almost impossible to build mega highways. Though, the there are streets that have large number of lanes, such as Queens Blvd.

Another factor is the high use of public transportaion. In NYC alone, the MTA ( which serves the 5 Boroughs, Long Island, the Hudson Valley, and 2 counties in CT ) is the largest transportation provider in the Western Hemisphere, with 14.6 million people in the service area, and 2.6 billion rail and bus customers a year. That is a whole lot of people. This isn't even including NJ Transit: The largest state wild transportation provider in the Nation, and one of the largest.
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Old 07-11-2009, 02:23 AM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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Because there's public transportation. We also have HOV lanes in parts of Long Island, so when you're driving during rush hour and have another passenger(s), you can go in the HOV lane to avoid the traffic. The area needs more of these.
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:55 AM
 
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Because there's public transportation. We also have HOV lanes in parts of Long Island, so when you're driving during rush hour and have another passenger(s), you can go in the HOV lane to avoid the traffic. The area needs more of these.
But are they useful? As in, can you exit the expressway from those lanes? because if not, they're not useful, because when you get to where you're going you have to cross BACK over a few lanes of traffic (they implemented them in Tennessee, I'm pretty sure just to have an opportunity to give more tickets).
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:09 AM
 
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How come New York metropolitan area (Incl. Northern New Jersey, New York City, Long Island), especially Northern New Jersey only have 2 - 3 lines per road (not incl. both sides of the road) on their highway? It's the most popolous metropolitan area, and the highest population density in the U.S.

For example, other metropolitan, such as Miami, LA, Atlanta etc. has 5 to 8 lines per road on their highway. We should have the same, our traffic is not better! Not just because of traffic, the U.S. is famous for its huge, wide roads, and New York/NJ doesn't feel like it.

New York Highway (3 lines highway like the picture below is most typical for 90% of New Jersey/New York highways!)
As opposed to Miami, LA and Atlanta New York offers an alternative transportation in the form of subway. Also cost of resl etstate and environmental impact prohibits widening the roads to accommodate more traffic. I think in the next 20 years most of Manhattan will be closed to automobile traffic anyways...
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