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Of course, the unions are coming out with guns blazing. Here is a quote from the article. Does anyone else think this statement is totally reprehensible?
“You're not going to get into this city unless you come forward and talk to the players, and in New York City, like it or not, the labor movement is a major player,” says Pat Purcell, assistant to the president of United Food and Commercial Workers Local 1500."
It is a statement that says, essentially, "We run this town and no matter what the public wants, we decide who does business here. We make the rules". It reminds me of organized crime tactics. The guy could have at least given some lip service to the struggles of the working man, but I guess when you're a "player", with so much power none of that really matters anymore.
These people have no idea what they are talking about. The prices at Pathmark and shop-rite are lower than Wal-Mart. Not only are the prices lower at the local stores but the local stores double coupons and have a greater selection of local /regional items. The sales at the local stores kick wal-marts butt which does not have many loss leader type sales.
The selection of items at Wal-Mart is lacking. Italian cooking? You are stuck with national brands at Wal-Mart since wal-mart stocks items from the wal-mart buyer that was reared in East Jesus Nebraska and thinks Italian food is ragu spaghetti sauce and Happy Henry's frozen pizza.
The produce/meats in Wal-Mart are atrocious. The smallest fruits selected for the cheapest cost and meat butchered at a mega factory in Kansas by low-cost illegal help. Instead of in-house butchers cutting your meat you get meat butchered days ago in Kansas. Then the meat is injected with preservative solution and shipped out all over the country to make sure it can survive the trip from Kansas to the east coast. For the bottom end uneducated shopper Wal-Mart is the worst thing that could ever happen to their budget and to their selection of foods.
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Originally Posted by TheImportersWife
I don't know where you're getting your "facts" from, but that isn't true. They can price items individually down to the store level. Are you a Walmart vendor???
Way back in 1994, my northern Westchester based employer had a booth at a convention at the Javits Center. We have a relatively simple setup and at other conventions we did it ourselves. They insisted we had to use their union hires and pay someone $1000 just to do what took us perhaps 15-30 minutes.
There are areas where unions have a place and a need, I'm not one of those far-right people who want them completely out of existence but this was abuse (extreme abuse!) in my view and from this view I can see the troubles Wal-Mart is having. While there are some things about Wal-Mart that are troubling, I think they would be especially good for low-income areas of the outer boros.
Regarding selection of groceries, there are 3 kinds of Wal-Marts, I'll use semi-local examples. In a "plain" wal-Mart (like the one in Rockland County), there are no groceries whatsoever. Then there are special, rare, sometimes 2-floor "urban" Wal-Marts (like the one in White Plains) that has a decent grocery section, but far from a full supermarket. I think this is what you're comparing PathMark to. Finally, there are Supercenters (usually rural or in small cities, nearest one to NYC is in Harriman, NY in Orange County) which are full supermarkets mated with a Wal-Mart. In many areas, these have competed mightily with local supermarkets.
You are wrong. My previous post is comparing the local supermarkets to the super Wal-Marts like the Wal-Mart off the NY thru-way in Harriman NY.
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Originally Posted by 7 Wishes
Regarding selection of groceries, there are 3 kinds of Wal-Marts, I'll use semi-local examples. In a "plain" wal-Mart (like the one in Rockland County), there are no groceries whatsoever. Then there are special, rare, sometimes 2-floor "urban" Wal-Marts (like the one in White Plains) that has a decent grocery section, but far from a full supermarket. I think this is what you're comparing PathMark to. Finally, there are Supercenters (usually rural or in small cities, nearest one to NYC is in Harriman, NY in Orange County) which are full supermarkets mated with a Wal-Mart. In many areas, these have competed mightily with local supermarkets.
Walmart has the same prices regardless of location. I work in wholesale retail. It is not feasible for them to price items differently per store. {Which may also play a role in there absence from Manhattan. Selling price-cost of rent-operating expenses (rent)=profit.}
This is soooo not true!!! Ive brought things from a walmart closest to my house only to see it cheaper at the one a little further out in the same day.....Items prices are based off of the consumers in that area. If an item isnt selling that well in an area they will lower the prices to get that item off the shelf...even if it means only for that store.
These people have no idea what they are talking about. The prices at Pathmark and shop-rite are lower than Wal-Mart. Not only are the prices lower at the local stores but the local stores double coupons and have a greater selection of local /regional items. The sales at the local stores kick wal-marts butt which does not have many loss leader type sales.
The selection of items at Wal-Mart is lacking. Italian cooking? You are stuck with national brands at Wal-Mart since wal-mart stocks items from the wal-mart buyer that was reared in East Jesus Nebraska and thinks Italian food is ragu spaghetti sauce and Happy Henry's frozen pizza.
The produce/meats in Wal-Mart are atrocious. The smallest fruits selected for the cheapest cost and meat butchered at a mega factory in Kansas by low-cost illegal help. Instead of in-house butchers cutting your meat you get meat butchered days ago in Kansas. Then the meat is injected with preservative solution and shipped out all over the country to make sure it can survive the trip from Kansas to the east coast. For the bottom end uneducated shopper Wal-Mart is the worst thing that could ever happen to their budget and to their selection of foods.
I so agree with everything you posted!!!! I dont care whether walmart comes to NYC or not but Walmart isnt the best thing since sliced bread.....they ar ewhats wrong with businesses in this country and the president of United Food and Commercial Workers Local 1500 has the right idea with that comment....i mean go into any walmart most of the employees are handicapp or elderly that should tell you something right there
My friend is an upper-level manager for Wal-mart and they are planning on opening dozens of small markets in NYC in the next few years. We'll see how that would work but the bodegas and mom and pop stores would be threatened. I doubt if Wal-mart has that much clout in NYC to make that happen but again, we shall see.
Walmart has been opposed by a powerful bodega lobby, who got together with the Korean grocers and various unions to stop it.
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