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Old 08-06-2009, 11:14 AM
 
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Yes, Metrocard vending needs to be at every major bus stop. That Metrocard Bus idea is a little convoluted. An entire bus that travels around and parks to sell Metrocards.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:18 PM
 
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Before the system used metrocards, you could pay with tokens, buses accepted dollar bills. When the system converted to metrocards, the slot used for the dollar bills was converted to accept metrocards. I guess they couldn't make another slot for bills as well!
Do you people smoke this up? Ridiculously funny!

Long, long, long ago, drivers used to make change. Then EXACT CHANGE was required and drivers no longer made change. At this point paper money was no longer accepted.

Transfers from Bus to Subway and vice versa was not allowed until the implementation of the Metrocard. Such was one of the benefits touted to a reluctant populace.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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Do you people smoke this up? Ridiculously funny!

Long, long, long ago, drivers used to make change. Then EXACT CHANGE was required and drivers no longer made change. At this point paper money was no longer accepted.

Transfers from Bus to Subway and vice versa was not allowed until the implementation of the Metrocard. Such was one of the benefits touted to a reluctant populace.
On that point, Metrocards didn't really pick up until metrocard gold came out (the current standard cards) because they introduced unlimited fares. When metrocard first came out (in blue) it was actually more inconvenient because they weren't compatable in all stations, and aside from size and weight, held no real advantage to the token system.

That said, I think that when they switch the system again to the tap and go system, they need to do it very quickly so that early adaptors aren't screwed like they were on Metrocard before the launch of Metrocard gold.

As for the bus shelter metrocard vending machine idea, the city is half way there with their Select Bus service up in the bronx
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...us_shelter.jpg
They have the same machines up there, but they're using them to print reciepts so that you pay to ride before you enter the bus. I don't see why it would be too difficult to have this sort of thing in high traffic bus stops, especially in areas that are out of the way from subway stations like Kings Plaza.

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Old 08-06-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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I have to say sometimes those bill machines are very picky.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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The system they have now on the PATH works well (I forgot the full name). It is a pass-and-go system that allows you to tap rather than feed a card.

You pay more for the initial card, but then after that you just tap your wallet/billfold to the sensor to get through (or to refill at the booth...).

The thingthat annoyed the hell out of me on NJ Transit busses was when the 126 fare went up to $2.55 and they only accepted dollar bills.

Let me get this strait, my wife and I want to ride and I give you a $5 and a dime, but you say I can't because you only accept dollar bills? WTH?

Side note, is it LEGAL for them to refuse cash payment? "This note is LEGAL tender for all debts PUBLIC and private" means nothing?
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:06 PM
 
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Yes, Metrocard vending needs to be at every major bus stop.
That's quite a proposal. About as unrealistic as anything I've ever seen here on C-D...and there's a lot of that going around!
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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A debit-based MetroCard system actually sounds like a frakking awesome idea... I think it's extremely practical, and would work very well. I hope it passes.
I don't know how many people are aware of this as it is in its early stages, but that is here and it actually seems like a good deal!!

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Old 08-06-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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On that point, Metrocards didn't really pick up until metrocard gold came out (the current standard cards) because they introduced unlimited fares. When metrocard first came out (in blue) it was actually more inconvenient because they weren't compatable in all stations, and aside from size and weight, held no real advantage to the token system.

That said, I think that when they switch the system again to the tap and go system, they need to do it very quickly so that early adaptors aren't screwed like they were on Metrocard before the launch of Metrocard gold.

As for the bus shelter metrocard vending machine idea, the city is half way there with their Select Bus service up in the bronx
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...us_shelter.jpg
They have the same machines up there, but they're using them to print reciepts so that you pay to ride before you enter the bus. I don't see why it would be too difficult to have this sort of thing in high traffic bus stops, especially in areas that are out of the way from subway stations like Kings Plaza.
Good point on the BX-12 and I agree with you about Kings Plaza and other out of the way bus stops.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:26 PM
 
Location: NY,NY
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On that point, Metrocards didn't really pick up until metrocard gold came out (the current standard cards) because they introduced unlimited fares. When metrocard first came out (in blue) it was actually more inconvenient because they weren't compatable in all stations, and aside from size and weight, held no real advantage to the token system.

That said, I think that when they switch the system again to the tap and go system, they need to do it very quickly so that early adaptors aren't screwed like they were on Metrocard before the launch of Metrocard gold.

As for the bus shelter metrocard vending machine idea, the city is half way there with their Select Bus service up in the bronx
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...us_shelter.jpg
They have the same machines up there, but they're using them to print reciepts so that you pay to ride before you enter the bus. I don't see why it would be too difficult to have this sort of thing in high traffic bus stops, especially in areas that are out of the way from subway stations like Kings Plaza.
Hey, thanks for the select bus info. I'm not much of a public transport person, but I've had some health issues, and presently my car is in another state! So, I've been forced onto public transport, mostly the bus. I hate having to climb to the subway stairs just to get a metrocard. Frankly, at the moment, I can't climb the stairs!! So, that's good news. Fortunately, I'll be rolling again by the time they get those machines to Queens.

BTW, can anyone explain to me what the benefit is to this so-called "touch n go" system? Why spend the money for a new system? The MTA just finds more unnecessary and unneeded ways to waste our money.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:29 PM
 
Location: NY,NY
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That's quite a proposal. About as unrealistic as anything I've ever seen here on C-D...and there's a lot of that going around!
Not every bus stop, but certainly at every subway, especially the elevated ones---there needs to be a machine on the ground. Lots of people, disabled, injured, and old people ride the bus rather than the subway and have difficulty managing the stairs, and consequently avoid them.
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