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Old 01-07-2010, 04:42 PM
 
Location: New York
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Not only was it a closer race than anyone expected, but let's face it: there was really no good reason for Bloomberg to have won in the first place. There were roughly a million votes cast--in a city with 4.5 million registered voters. The turnout was less than 25% percent, for heaven's sake, and the whole thing came down to a few thousand votes. (This is actually not only pathetic, but fairly frightening). Hopefully, things will work out better next time.
I totally agree.
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:32 AM
 
Location: New York
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Default great taste for Mr. Liu

John Liu has great taste in pizza. If his governing acumen is as good as his taste in pizza he may be the man for the job.
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Actually, we may not have to worry about such a thing. I believe there's a good chance that John Liu will run for Mayor next time around. Had he done so this time, Thompson might well not even have gotten the Democratic nomination.
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Old 01-08-2010, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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John Liu wouldn't have much of a chance against anybody else running for mayor. There aren't enough Asians alone to vote him in .
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Tri-State Area
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I wouldn't be surprised if Bloomberg changes the law and runs again Anyone but him....
Voting for Thompson is voting for the unions who are wrecking this city financially. The only vested interest unions have is their own pocket - they could care less about the city and it's inhabitants, including the children. Isn't that why a fair number of NYC municipal workers actually reside outside of the city?
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:13 AM
 
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Thompson will have some built in advantages next time. People will be a little more familiar with him this time around and if he is smart he can come in with some actual ideas next time. It all depends who the Dems get behind.
Thompson is a union hack. It doesn't matter if the Dems get behind him, there is a strong anti-union fevor building and it will not dissapate by 2013. The good-paying jobs which contribute so much towards those tax dollars necessary to pay the unions are permanently leaving. Where will you obtain the money necessary to cater to the unions? Higher Taxes?, on whom, the retail worker making $11 an hour with no health and pension. Good Luck to that. The nationwide phenomonen against high deficits and taxes - something Democrats specialize in will come back to bite them in future elections, starting with 2010. Now, that's change you can believe in!
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:46 AM
 
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It doesn't matter if the Dems get behind him, there is a strong anti-union fevor building and it will not dissapate by 2013.
Unions are strong, they have money and are organized. Many with so-call strong anti-union fervor complain alot but do nothing. Look at the election, how many people went out to vote. Its pretty pathetic.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:28 AM
 
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Although I agree that Unions are strangling this city and are part of the problem, not the solution, and Thompson will now doubt pander to this group regardless of whether it hurts the city, the Unions have too much money to simply dissolve them. Thompson will be their lapdog, and unfortuantely, if he is Mayor of NYC, he will no doubt cater to the Unions, expand and add more social services, and increase taxes to pay for it all. As a result, the Unions will spend tens of millions to support him, and tens of millions more against his rival.

There is lots of time for a rival to step-up. It is really quite easy for someone to beat Thompson actually..who wants to vote in someone who wants to cater to Unions, increase social services spending, and increase taxes to pay for it all at the expense of the survival of NYC? Not many..which is why we have had Giuliani for 2 terms, and Bloomy for 3...Dems just don't get it,a nd from what I see of Thompson, and the incompetence of Ruben Diaz's "we rather be on welfare than work", they never will.
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Tri-State Area
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Unions are strong, they have money and are organized. Many with so-call strong anti-union fervor complain alot but do nothing. Look at the election, how many people went out to vote. Its pretty pathetic.
Don't you worry - the complainers will take action, no one likes paying taxes when they are unemployed. Notice how the teachers union is playing nice in the playground - that's because they know that Bloomie is gonna stick to to them, times have changed, the days of getting paid without producing results are over. The citizens want results, not kids coming out with the inability to properly speak and write English, and knowing basic arithmitic. I'm all for year-round teaching, but I know the teachers aren't - why?, not because of scientific evidence proving it's detrimental to students but because it's detrimental to their wallet. They need the 10 weeks to de-stress from the year - give me a break, already!
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:05 AM
 
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Unions are strong, they have money and are organized. Many with so-call strong anti-union fervor complain alot but do nothing. Look at the election, how many people went out to vote. Its pretty pathetic.
If every citizen against union gerrymandering coughed up five dollars, who do you think had more money? the unions or the citizens? The citizens will take a page from Obama and start a "grass-roots" organization - Yes, we can!! The unions would do well not to underestimate the masses.
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:08 PM
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If every citizen against union gerrymandering coughed up five dollars, who do you think had more money? the unions or the citizens? The citizens will take a page from Obama and start a "grass-roots" organization - Yes, we can!! The unions would do well not to underestimate the masses.
Preach to the choir.... If any of the regular NYer's now working 3 part-time jobs, without benefits, living with a roommate or 2 or 3/or still with their family, could get a good paying union job, they would be right on it. Your argument isn't strong enough. There are 2 many regular NYers, living like that. If they banned together to kill the unions they would cut off their own chances for a better future.

Everyone should read about the pre-union working conditions in NY. People working like slaves for long hours, no benefits. With federal overtime laws changed for non-union people nationally, the employers can work the employees as long as they want without overtime pay.

There were blood, sweat, and tears shed to create the unions. I see that the forces against their creation are still at work. Hoping that this generation will not research what their predecessors went through.
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