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Old 11-08-2010, 11:04 PM
 
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South of Buffalo is ski country?! Kissing Bridge is a joke, Holimount (usually private only) which leaves Holiday Valley. Which is fine if you don't know any better. Holiday Valley's longest run is less than a mile and has less than 500 ft vertical drop. It is not comparable to Whiteface which has hosted 2 Olympics. Consistently rated one of the best in the East by who?
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:17 AM
 
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Consistently rated one of the best in the East by who?
Ski Magazine for one ........

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Yes, Holiday Valley. No. 4 in the East. Ahead of Whiteface, ahead of Killington, ahead of Sugarbush, ahead of...well, you get the point. We know this: They’re not doing it with Terrain Variety or Challenge—not on 750 vertical feet, anyway. But that only underscores how successful this not-so-little Western New York resort dynamo is in serving the needs of its constituents. True, lots of Holiday Valley survey respondents aren’t comparing the place to the far-off mountains of, say, Vermont or the Adirondacks. But loyal Holiday Valley skiers are proud of their home hill, and by any standard, the charms of Ellicottville are obvious: real snow (thank you, lake effect), cozy village, lively scene, plenty of soul. “Best ski town east of the Rockies,” asserts one reader. “Great small-town feel,” adds another. All the busy bars and restaurants add up to “awesome apr√®s scene” (No. 3 in the East) and a high rank for Dining (No. 4). Meanwhile, the ski area makes the most of what it has: Respondents rank it No. 2 in lifts, for instance. (Admittedly, that’s a little tough to swallow if you’re say, Stratton, which has five high-speed lifts to Holiday’s two; but impressive by local standards nonetheless.) Family Programs rank a respectable No. 4, thanks largely to the efforts of the “awesome, highly knowledgeable” ski school employees. Holiday keeps it real in terms of pricing—and earns a No. 6 for Value. And its Terrain Parks (No. 7) do a great job of keeping the tweens and teens happy and out of trouble. In general, “they do a lot with their 750 vertical feet,” says one reader. “They work hard and keep making improvements,” adds another. Crowds can be a problem. So can the limits of geography. “Need more hill,” one reader admits. But the charms of Ellicottville and the fun, laid-back atmosphere of the mountain—“friendliest mountain staff in the industry”—seal the deal for skiers of Western New York and beyond. Just goes to show, the quality of a ski experience can’t always be measured in vertical feet.
| SKI Magazine


One thing that seems to be getting lost in the ski side of this discussion is that Whiteface isn't really anywhere near Albany, its a good 3 hour drive away. While admittedly Kissing Bridge is nothing special its maybe a 30 minute drive from Buffalo & its evening hours means if you live anywhere in the Buffalo metro you can hit the slopes pretty much every afternoon/night after work/school. You can be in Holiday Valley in under an hour from downtown Buffalo or the Southtowns. Whiteface is a decent resort but lets not act like its Breckenridge or Park City. In reality its not that much better than HV & HV's proximity to Buffalo makes it even more appealing.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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You do know that the survey was based on polls at the resort? Meaning they asked people who were at the resort already. They didn't ask people in Killington about Holiday Valley and vice versa. I'll simply say Holiday Valley is a beginner/family place with little challenge/excitement. Here's a link to ski resorts in NY.

Map of New York Ski Areas | SkiReport.com

yeah sure Whiteface is just like Holiday Valley. Is Buffalo putting their Winter Olympic bid in?
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:44 AM
 
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Ratings are done the same for the all resorts, no resort has an advantage, and of course they are taken at the resort... where else? Whiteface obviously blows hv away in terms of vertical, jeez it compares to western resorts. After whiteface though, there's big dropoff in NY. The adirondacks really don't have a lot of ski resorts, not as many as it potentially could have, probably because of preserve regulations. But as far as hv, a lot of people disagree with you. Welcome to the real world.
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Old 11-12-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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"the real world" or the buffalo world? Obviously you didn't click the link and look at where all the ski resorts in NY tend to be located. That's fine that everyone in the local area thinks Holiday Valley is great. Anyway back to the OP I don't know if anyone mentioned it but on top of all the ski places nearby Albany in NY, you are also a short drive to all the Vermont ones as well. If you're the skiing/hiking camping type Albany has better access to those things. If you are a bar hopping type Buffalo has better access to those things. Or you could split the difference and move to Syracuse.
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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"the real world" or the buffalo world? Obviously you didn't click the link and look at where all the ski resorts in NY tend to be located. That's fine that everyone in the local area thinks Holiday Valley is great. Anyway back to the OP I don't know if anyone mentioned it but on top of all the ski places nearby Albany in NY, you are also a short drive to all the Vermont ones as well. If you're the skiing/hiking camping type Albany has better access to those things. If you are a bar hopping type Buffalo has better access to those things. Or you could split the difference and move to Syracuse.
Or maybe look into Plattsburgh, which puts you close to the Adirondacks, the Green Mountains of VT, I believe the Laurentians of Quebec and Montreal would only be about an hour away.

Syracuse does have some smaller Ski resorts like Song Mountain, Labador(sp?) Mountain and Greek Peak (in Cortland County) close by.
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