
10-25-2011, 08:24 AM
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My husband, our 10 year old and myself are thinking of moving to upstate NY from NJ. Can anyone fill us in on these towns in terms of safety, schools, good, quiet places to raise children? Also, any bike trails nearby? Thanks.
Liberty
Naponach
Callicoon
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10-25-2011, 09:33 AM
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Location: Auckland, NZ
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Nothing much going on in any of those places; Sullivan County, located in the Catskill Mountains, is very rural. I would suggest staying a bit further south, perhaps in Orange County. Places that may be of interest to you are Pine Bush, Montgomery, Maybrook, Washingtonville, Chester, and Otisville.
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10-25-2011, 09:46 AM
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Location: SENIOR MEMBER
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You must be referring to western Lower Hudson Valley Area.
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Originally Posted by lsadlonjo
My husband, our 10 year old and myself are thinking of moving to upstate NY from NJ. Can anyone fill us in on these towns in terms of safety, schools, good, quiet places to raise children? Also, any bike trails nearby? Thanks.
Liberty
Naponach
Callicoon
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Hello Isadlonjo,
I read your message that mentioned "Upstate New York" so I thought that I'd be able to help you with information. Then I read that you mean the towns of Liberty, Naponach, & Callicoon. I think that most of us real "Upstate" residents think of that area as the "Lower Hudson Valley" or "Southern Catskill Mountains Area"; I think we "Upstate" residents think of that area as "Downstate" NY.
Anyway, I think that you should write your message again and title it as follows: "Liberty, Naponach, Callicoon-Where should we move?" INSTEAD OF: "Thinking of moving to Upstate NY. How are these towns?".
Then you can ask about safety, crime, quality of schools, quiet places to raise children, availability of jobs, cost of homes, cost of living, nearby grocery stores & other stores, any biking trails, and other things. I think that you would receive more information from people WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA (if you mention the towns in your title) and really know about conditions in those towns.
Besure to check about jobs because Liberty-Naponach-Callicoon is VERY RURAL and far removed from cities unless you want to drive a long distance which takes a lot of gasoline/expense for your car.
I remember helping a family with information about moving to way-farther-north in Upstate NY, who lived in Olivebridge on highway Route 213 which is located northeast of Naponach. They said that Olivebridge was more expensive than in the "real Upstate NY" and Olivebridge was too isolated.
So, I recommend that you mention the towns in your title and besure that you want to live out in a VERY RURAL maybe ISOLATED area. Good luck to you.
grdnrman
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10-29-2011, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by grdnrman
Hello Isadlonjo,
I read your message that mentioned "Upstate New York" so I thought that I'd be able to help you with information. Then I read that you mean the towns of Liberty, Naponach, & Callicoon. I think that most of us real "Upstate" residents think of that area as the "Lower Hudson Valley" or "Southern Catskill Mountains Area"; I think we "Upstate" residents think of that area as "Downstate" NY.
Anyway, I think that you should write your message again and title it as follows: "Liberty, Naponach, Callicoon-Where should we move?" INSTEAD OF: "Thinking of moving to Upstate NY. How are these towns?".
Then you can ask about safety, crime, quality of schools, quiet places to raise children, availability of jobs, cost of homes, cost of living, nearby grocery stores & other stores, any biking trails, and other things. I think that you would receive more information from people WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA (if you mention the towns in your title) and really know about conditions in those towns.
Besure to check about jobs because Liberty-Naponach-Callicoon is VERY RURAL and far removed from cities unless you want to drive a long distance which takes a lot of gasoline/expense for your car.
I remember helping a family with information about moving to way-farther-north in Upstate NY, who lived in Olivebridge on highway Route 213 which is located northeast of Naponach. They said that Olivebridge was more expensive than in the "real Upstate NY" and Olivebridge was too isolated.
So, I recommend that you mention the towns in your title and besure that you want to live out in a VERY RURAL maybe ISOLATED area. Good luck to you.
grdnrman
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Syracuse isn't upstate either. Syracuse is in the Southern Tier, also known as Central New York.
Like another poster said, you're looking at a rural area, in or near the Catskill Mountains. Beautiful place, but not much industry.
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10-30-2011, 07:52 AM
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Location: Capitol Hill - Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by catsmom21
Syracuse isn't upstate either. Syracuse is in the Southern Tier, also known as Central New York.
Like another poster said, you're looking at a rural area, in or near the Catskill Mountains. Beautiful place, but not much industry.
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Syracuse is not part of the Southern Tier. Central NY and Southern Tier are two completely different areas.
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10-30-2011, 08:37 AM
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Location: Hamburg, NY
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Originally Posted by jmaichuk
Nice of you to tell her how to write her post without answering any of her questions. That was very helpful of you.
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There is nothing nitpicking about it, the title suggests the OP wants to move Upstate but the actual details within post have nothing to do with Upstate.
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10-30-2011, 10:12 AM
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Location: Staten Island, NY
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The terms upstate and downstate always divided everything north and south of the metropolitan area. The regional names are totally separate from that and more specific: Southern Tier, Catskills, Hudson Valley, Capital Region, Adirondacks, Thousand Islands, Central New York/Finger Lakes, Long Island, etc. Until I joined this forum I never heard of any area of NY claiming "Upstate" to be their regional name. The OP wasn't specific (nothing wrong with that, they aren't from here after all), but they weren't totally wrong.
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10-30-2011, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Airborneguy
The terms upstate and downstate always divided everything north and south of the metropolitan area. The regional names are totally separate from that and more specific: Southern Tier, Catskills, Hudson Valley, Capital Region, Adirondacks, Thousand Islands, Central New York/Finger Lakes, Long Island, etc. Until I joined this forum I never heard of any area of NY claiming "Upstate" to be their regional name. The OP wasn't specific (nothing wrong with that, they aren't from here after all), but they weren't totally wrong.
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Upstate is viewed generally as any part of the state north of whatever line people use. Some use north of Ulster, Dutchess and Sullivan Counties. Some use north of Rockland and Westchester(or Putnam) counties. Some even say north of the Bronx.
Then, you have subdivisions like Western or Central NY for examples.
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10-30-2011, 11:37 AM
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Location: Staten Island, NY
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That is exactly my point ckhthankgod.
"Upstate" always meant somewhere north of what is considered the City and it's suburbs. "Downstate" was the exact opposite. Then, like every other state, there are "regions" that people generally accept as being different from each other for various reasons (not all reasons being purely geographical). I see on this forum though that a few posters seem to think "Upstate" is a "Region", meaning that the Southern Tier for example, is not a part of "Upstate". Other states use the terms "Upstate" and "Downstate" by the way.
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10-30-2011, 06:20 PM
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Location: Central NJ
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Originally Posted by jmaichuk
Nice of you to tell her how to write her post without answering any of her questions. That was very helpful of you.
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I think grdnrman wrote what he felt would help and or assist the op what's up with you hum..
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