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Old 01-24-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Here is some very interesting information in regards to school funding in the state: School Districts Map
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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Here is some very interesting information in regards to school funding in the state: School Districts Map
I think it is more relevant if you look at the district and compare the house values. We are sandwiched between Clarence and Alden: Clarence ($4,377) Alden ($7,567), and Lancaster ($4,970). Alden gets the most money, Clarence the least. When you look at the cost of homes and the taxes people pay towards schools? I think Clarence gets way too much. There is a lot more income in that district to be taxed on . Lancaster runs a lean district, our school taxes are good and the education is. I think all 3 districts provide excellent education -- yet look at the difference in money in the towns compared to real estate value and # of students:


Lancaster gets $4940 in a town of 6,307 kids and home values avg. $163K
Clarence gets $4,377 in a town of 4,900 kids and home values avg. $209K
Alden gets $7,567 in a (small) town of 1,745 and home values of $145K

Personally, I do not think the map is correctly reflective of the districts. They should have a ratio of tax base ( based on house assessment) to school taxes -- and then add the money given. Why? Because I comapered it not only locally but to family in other areas. My Sister-in-law pays over 6 times what I pay in school tax ( on LI) and she is in the same category that we are... but her house is worth a lot more and the district very large... so this doesn't pan out..

I also thought the $3,000 cutoff was odd. They should keep it to $5,000 or $2,500 levels.

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Old 01-25-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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If anyone is looking and touting Buffalo "for the cheap taxes": the state pours in $16,377/student with average real estate valued at $82,529 ( which I find very high!) and an enrollment of 39,252 kids. Add in that 83% get free or reduced lunch.

The free/reduced lunch says a lot.

Your houses are worth less, the state pumps in close to 2X to 3X the cash they do for burbs and yes, we pay more taxes than you. We also do not have the high student load or excessive poverty.

The taxes Buffalo pours in? They get them from the rest of our taxes to the state.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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I dont understand the free/Reduced lunch. Give them a PBNJ with value @ cost less than .50 cents why do they get to get a 2.00-3.00 lunch like all the other kids paying for it? When does the gravy train end, 50 million deficit perhaps?
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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I dont understand the free/Reduced lunch. Give them a PBNJ with value @ cost less than .50 cents why do they get to get a 2.00-3.00 lunch like all the other kids paying for it? When does the gravy train end, 50 million deficit perhaps?
As sad as it is, I bet half of those kids couldn't get 50 cents to pay that even. Breakfast and Lunch served by the school are the only meal a lot of those kids get all day. In Binghamton they have a lunch in the park program in the summers because most of the kids don't eat at all outside of school. So giving them a PBNJ wouldn't really cut it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:44 PM
 
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Give me a break, Everyone has 50 cents for a meal! When these welfare bunnies are conversing with the general public and speaking of their mistakenly conceived children they should refer to them as "our children" as it seems these mothers n fathers have no more financially responsibility than the average tax payer... Like I said 2 PBJ's a day for 1$ thats good enough to satisfy a kids calorie needs for the day, the rest has to be up to the family to provide... Enough is enough.
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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Don't get eligibility confused with the percentage of those that actually get free lunch. I'm sure that many of the people eligible bring their lunch and that there are some that probably don't even know that they are eligible. So, I would be careful in terms of thinking that is the percentage of students getting free or reduced lunch.
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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Don't get eligibility confused with the percentage of those that actually get free lunch. I'm sure that many of the people eligible bring their lunch and that there are some that probably don't even know that they are eligible. So, I would be careful in terms of thinking that is the percentage of students getting free or reduced lunch.
Very true. I'm sure a lot of the C-D posters would be surprised to know just how *well within* the income levels they fall, for free or reduced lunch. Reduced means no more than 30-40 cents per meal but the standard seems to be a quarter. It looks like a pretty decent, working-class income, doesn't it?

Eligibility and participation are very, very different things.

I tried to c&p from the state's website but it didn't transfer very well. Sorry for the format.

Household Size

Monthly income level
Max income for Reduced Price Meals listed first. I've then added the annual income, as an aid.
Max income for Free School Breakfast & Lunch Meals listed second.

1
$1476 x 12 = $17,712/yr
$1037

2
$1978 x 12 = $23,736/yr
$1390

3
$2481 x 12 = $29,772/yr
$1744

4
$2984 x 12 = $35,808/yr
$2097

5
$3486 x 12 = $41,832/yr
$2450

6
$3989 x 12 = $47,868/yr
$2803

7
$4491 x 12 = $53,892/yr
$3156

8
$4994 x 12 = $59,928/yr
$3509

For each additional family member,
add $503 for Reduced Price Meals
and $354 for Free Meals.

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Old 01-26-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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So if you're within that income level and your child goes to school, you're still counted in the Free/Reduced Meal percentage in stats... even if you don't participate. The maximum income levels are such that many probably aren't even aware that their well-sufficient income is eligible.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:22 AM
 
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Looks pretty hard to get on to me.

Lower middle class income here and we'd have to have 11 kids to get the reduced lunch. And 16 kids to get the free lunch.

Looks to me that a household would have to be putting very little effort into life to get the goodies.

Assuming a mommy and a daddy and 2.2 kids a free lunch is 2 grand a month. Thats 500 a week. Both parents working at a burger joint for MW for 39 hours would make 565 and get popped back to reduced.

Systems broken and broke.
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