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Old 01-25-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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My husband and I are in need of a major change of scenery and have decided to move from the Bronx to Putnam County, we're looking into other areas also. We have two little girls, so great public schools are a NECESSITY, "bad areas" meaning drugs, crime, etc. are undesired locations, we do not want to rent an apartment, as we have been through that too many times. We would like to rent a single-family home or a town house. Is anyone familiar with Putnam County as a whole and can give me some insight into housing, schools, etc.? We are also Section 8 voucher holder's, so the landlord will need to accept Section 8. We are both gainfully employed and are just looking for a decent environment to raise our girls in. Any POSITIVE feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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You dont want to live in Putnam County on Section 8, Take it down to Westchester, Peekskill, Ossining? Look into those area's... Gainfully employed? So why are you taking handouts?
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:48 AM
 
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We are also Section 8 voucher holder's, so the landlord will need to accept Section 8. We are both gainfully employed and are just looking for a decent environment to raise our girls in. Any POSITIVE feedback will be greatly appreciated

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Old 01-30-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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My husband and I are in need of a major change of scenery and have decided to move from the Bronx to Putnam County, we're looking into other areas also. We have two little girls, so great public schools are a NECESSITY, "bad areas" meaning drugs, crime, etc. are undesired locations, we do not want to rent an apartment, as we have been through that too many times. We would like to rent a single-family home or a town house. Is anyone familiar with Putnam County as a whole and can give me some insight into housing, schools, etc.? We are also Section 8 voucher holder's, so the landlord will need to accept Section 8. We are both gainfully employed and are just looking for a decent environment to raise our girls in. Any POSITIVE feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Living on section 8 in the burbs would not be a good experience for you and your family. No one in the burbs wants section 8 in their backyard, and you will realize this if you happen to find a place. If you absolutely need section 8, stick to NYC.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:02 AM
 
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Living on section 8 in the burbs would not be a good experience for you and your family. No one in the burbs wants section 8 in their backyard, and you will realize this if you happen to find a place. If you absolutely need section 8, stick to NYC.
Living on section 8 in the burbs is a great experience. Poverty begets poverty and crime begets crime. Using this assistance to try to BREAK the cycle of poverty is a great thing. If the participant wants to use her voucher in Putnam and finds a landlord who chooses to accept it, let her. Sorry that you would rather see poor minorities keep to their own kind.

You do realize that section 8 is more of a handout to the upper middle class landlords who would have to charge way lower rents without section 8 than it is to the actual participants, don't you?
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
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You do realize that section 8 is more of a handout to the upper middle class landlords who would have to charge way lower rents without section 8 than it is to the actual participants, don't you?
No, it isn't.

The problem with Section 8 is the same as any other government support/handout program. While you have some using it out of genuine need and would prefer to get away from it if possible, you have others who have no desire to get off of it, and in fact prefer to stay in it. Unfortunately, some areas who have accepted large numbers of Section 8 tenants have also seen drastic crime increases.

Note I make no assumptions about the OP in this case, I am speaking of Section 8 users in a general sense. My own experience with them has not been pleasant: I am president of a condo complex that had several units rented out to Section 8 voucher holders. Unfortunately, every one of them flaunted the rules of the community, refused to pay fines for violating said rules, and were extremely hard to evict by the landlords. Not to mention late or nonexistent rent payments from the program, the tenant, or both. Participating in the program is no longer seen as particularly desirable for many independent landlords.

To the OP I would suggest this: skip the rental bit. Section 8 vouchers can be put towards an actual home purchase, and that's the direction I would recommend, particularly in the current real estate market with prices so low. You'll also end up in a better neighborhood and will not be in an adversarial relationship with a landlord.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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No, it isn't.

The problem with Section 8 is the same as any other government support/handout program. While you have some using it out of genuine need and would prefer to get away from it if possible, you have others who have no desire to get off of it, and in fact prefer to stay in it. Unfortunately, some areas who have accepted large numbers of Section 8 tenants have also seen drastic crime increases.
No, they haven't. They usually already had high crime. When section 8 voucher holders take those vouchers to low-crime areas they do not, in general, bring that crime with them.

And why would they have any desire to exit the program? If your income goes up you have to pay more in rent. That is the problem with government welfare programs -- they keep people poor instead of lifting people out of poverty. Then you have the OP, who is trying to use her voucher to move into a safe, suburban community with good schools (i.e. lift herself and her family OUT of poverty) and the people in this thread are giving her nothing but grief for it.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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No, they haven't. They usually already had high crime. When section 8 voucher holders take those vouchers to low-crime areas they do not, in general, bring that crime with them.
Nice of you to cherry-pick my post, so I think I'll do the same. Nothing you've said negates my statement, especially considering how many qualifiers you placed into the above sentence. Bottom line, this is what you said: "You're wrong that crime has increased in some areas because some other areas already had high crime and generally except for the ones that do bring crime with them some voucher holders don't bring crime with them."

So, now that that absolutely meaningless argument is out of the way and done with, we can get back to what I said:

I am president of a condo complex that had several units rented out to Section 8 voucher holders. Unfortunately, every one of them flaunted the rules of the community, refused to pay fines for violating said rules, and were extremely hard to evict by the landlords. Not to mention late or nonexistent rent payments from the program, the tenant, or both. Participating in the program is no longer seen as particularly desirable for many independent landlords.

To the OP I would suggest this: skip the rental bit. Section 8 vouchers can be put towards an actual home purchase, and that's the direction I would recommend, particularly in the current real estate market with prices so low. You'll also end up in a better neighborhood and will not be in an adversarial relationship with a landlord.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:58 AM
 
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No, they haven't. They usually already had high crime. When section 8 voucher holders take those vouchers to low-crime areas they do not, in general, bring that crime with them.

And why would they have any desire to exit the program? If your income goes up you have to pay more in rent. That is the problem with government welfare programs -- they keep people poor instead of lifting people out of poverty. Then you have the OP, who is trying to use her voucher to move into a safe, suburban community with good schools (i.e. lift herself and her family OUT of poverty) and the people in this thread are giving her nothing but grief for it.
Thank you very much for "defending" me against ignorant people.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:00 AM
 
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No, it isn't.

The problem with Section 8 is the same as any other government support/handout program. While you have some using it out of genuine need and would prefer to get away from it if possible, you have others who have no desire to get off of it, and in fact prefer to stay in it. Unfortunately, some areas who have accepted large numbers of Section 8 tenants have also seen drastic crime increases.

Note I make no assumptions about the OP in this case, I am speaking of Section 8 users in a general sense. My own experience with them has not been pleasant: I am president of a condo complex that had several units rented out to Section 8 voucher holders. Unfortunately, every one of them flaunted the rules of the community, refused to pay fines for violating said rules, and were extremely hard to evict by the landlords. Not to mention late or nonexistent rent payments from the program, the tenant, or both. Participating in the program is no longer seen as particularly desirable for many independent landlords.

To the OP I would suggest this: skip the rental bit. Section 8 vouchers can be put towards an actual home purchase, and that's the direction I would recommend, particularly in the current real estate market with prices so low. You'll also end up in a better neighborhood and will not be in an adversarial relationship with a landlord.
Thank you for that bit of advice. I had no idea that I am able to use my voucher towards the purchase of a home! I will definitely look into that.
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