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Old 02-01-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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I don't often research what I know to be true but I'm willing to help the needy from time to time.
Truly, thanks. My SD has used "binding arbitration" as a reason why they do not negotiate less beneficial teacher contracts. They have stated it is not worth the effort because the arbitrator will most probably side with the teacher's union if the dispute went to arbitration.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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pay that man his money - YouTube

If Cuomo could put this through, that would be impressive. But I think it would take the second coming of Jesus Christ to achieve something like this. Either way they'll find a way around it.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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pay that man his money - YouTube

If Cuomo could put this through, that would be impressive. But I think it would take the second coming of Jesus Christ to achieve something like this. Either way they'll find a way around it.
I hear Malkovich's surly Russian accent without even playing the vid! Good link, Pequa.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Teachers do not qualify for binding arbitration so this will not apply if approved by the state legislature. However, it could spell the end of Nassau and Suffolk PD piggybacking off of each other. I'm very pro union but even I will admit that they (NCPD,SCPD) have no one to blame but themselves and the county execs that purposely refused to negotiate and went to arbitration.
I am sure some exec's have gone to binding arbitration in the past to save themselves the problem of alienating union backing, far easier to throw up your hands and blame a lousy system.

The problem with Cuomo's proposal is that it only applies to the municipalities that are either the top 25% in terms of property taxes or have reserves less than 5% below the general fund, it should apply to all arbitration awards.

The arbitration system is not working, neither is the PERB. Ruling from back in 2009 by the PERB when the economy was a disaster, the school district wasn't asking for a freeze, just a reduced COL, also they already received close to 5% step increases, why even bother.



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Regarding annual wage increases, giving due consideration to the evidence of comparables, weighted in the context of the current and projected economic conditions, the Fact Finder recommends these increases in salary: July 1, 2008: 3.0 percent; July 1, 2009: 3.4 percent; July 1,
2010: 3.9 percent; and, July 1, 2011: 3.9 percent


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Old 02-02-2013, 07:41 PM
 
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Ha. Been trying it in town of hempstead for oh, 100 years or so. No luck so far but we keep trying!



I'm already great. I believe my kid's 1st grade teacher will be equally as good at $95k/yr with beau coup benefits as she is at $125k. Maybe lighting a fire under her keister will help her proof read the stuff she sends home.
'Proof read' or proofread?
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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Everyone knows Cuomo is an all hat no cattle phoney. Look at his Sandy response and his non-existent LIPA reforms.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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Everyone knows Cuomo is an all hat no cattle phoney. Look at his Sandy response and his non-existent LIPA reforms.
And the mythical 2% property tax cap. Tell Nassau County residents about 2%.

A cap is not a cap when it has more holes than swiss cheese.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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Like most of Cuomo's policies, it is a nice sound byte but it does nothing in reality.

Not to mention they are using a sledge hammer instead of a scalpel. Why do we need 2% caps instead of just going by-contract. Instead of folding like a wet noodle, counties should stand up for their taxpayers.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:37 AM
 
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'Proof read' or proofread?
I'd give her the benefit of typos if she were typing her notices on a cell phone like my post.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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And the mythical 2% property tax cap. Tell Nassau County residents about 2%.

A cap is not a cap when it has more holes than swiss cheese.
The tax cap has worked to a certain extent, the largest issue is that many districts are borrowing either because they cannot cut anymore due to existing contracts. DiNapoli came up with a method for schools to borrow against the pension fund, right after Cuomo announced the tax cap. This makes no sense and actually makes the financial situation worse because it masks the problems giving taxpayers a false sens of security and pushes the problem into the future. Cuomo and DiNapoli will be long gone and the budget problems will be worse than today.
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