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Old 02-24-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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Yep, I said it.

The non-partisan Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy does a full report annually on the tax status of every state in the country. New York, along with Delaware, Vermont, and District of Columbia, rate the "fairest" and "least regressive" tax structures in the country. New York's full 2013 report card can be found here.

For everyone complaining about how "high" NY taxes are, you don't understand how badly this country likes to screw the poor and middle class. You can look up any state, for curiousity.

Data speaks for itself:





And... Texas (along with other no income tax states), where people brag about "friendly" tax structure:




The pretty graphs are only available outside of PDF for 2007, but Tax rates haven't changed much! The current graphs look identical in the 2013 report.

Next time you find yourself complaining about big bad NY being so selfish, take a look in the mirror.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:07 PM
 
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Ha ha- what a joke. Pennsylvania is ranked worse than NY because it has a flat tax. Yet, its flat tax is lower than ALL of NY's tax rates! No matter how poor you are, you're better off in PA by that metric. How is that regressive? The rich may only pay 3.07% but the poor also pay 3.07%! So, they pay less anyway.

And this website is non-partisan how?
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Early April Fools joke maybe? There's no other explanation for this.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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Feel free to read the report, it has nothing but HARD NUMBERS for all 50 states, regardless of the graphs staring you in the face.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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Ha ha- what a joke. Pennsylvania is ranked worse than NY because it has a flat tax. Yet, its flat tax is lower than ALL of NY's tax rates! No matter how poor you are, you're better off in PA by that metric. How is that regressive? The rich may only pay 3.07% but the poor also pay 3.07%! So, they pay less anyway.

And this website is non-partisan how?
Less in income tax. Income tax is only one form of tax. The poor and middle class get socked hard via sales, excise, and property tax.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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Less in income tax. Income tax is only one form of tax. The poor and middle class get socked hard via sales, excise, and property tax.
Sales tax, excise tax (which is a gas and cigarette tax to most people), and property taxes are also all less in PA and most other states. I don't get the point here.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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Looked at another way, only the lowest 40% pay more of their share of income considering all taxes, in TX vs. NY. (And only the lowest 20%, an appreciably higher share.)

Those who consider relocating, and those whose complaints are most often heard in the political system, are far likelier to be in the upper 60-80% than in the lower 20-40%.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Sales tax, excise tax (which is a gas and cigarette tax to most people), and property taxes are also all less in PA and most other states. I don't get the point here.
Most in PA in addition to state income and salex tax, pay a 1-2% local wage tax, an occupation tax, and the ever changing up to $52/yr tax that was once called the "occupational privilege tax". That kid working at Hersheypark is awful hard hit by the $52, even proportionally at $2/pay period, compared to the CEO that pays the same $52.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Yep, I said it.

The non-partisan Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy does a full report annually on the tax status of every state in the country. New York, along with Delaware, Vermont, and District of Columbia, rate the "fairest" and "least regressive" tax structures in the country. New York's full 2013 report card can be found here.

For everyone complaining about how "high" NY taxes are, you don't understand how badly this country likes to screw the poor and middle class. You can look up any state, for curiousity.

Data speaks for itself:





And... Texas (along with other no income tax states), where people brag about "friendly" tax structure:




The pretty graphs are only available outside of PDF for 2007, but Tax rates haven't changed much! The current graphs look identical in the 2013 report.

Next time you find yourself complaining about big bad NY being so selfish, take a look in the mirror.
Non-partisan, my achin' hairy butt. Robert Reich???

Board of Directors | The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP)

Their VP is from the self-admitted "lefty [and] proud" American Prospect

http://prospect.org/about-us
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Non-partisan, my achin' hairy butt. Robert Reich???

Board of Directors | The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP)
What does this have to do with the NUMBERS?

Are you going to call them fudged?
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