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When I lived there recycling was mandatory. You had to separate all of your cans, bottles and papers placing them in separate bins for recycling. No big deal. Failure to do so would result in a $250 fine. If the garbagemen found a recyclable item in the regular trash they would summon the sanitation supervisor to issue a ticket. I used to place all of my bottles and cans out for recycling including those that had a deposit, the illegal immigrants and derelicts would come by every Friday and rummage through the bins looking for those containers leaving a mess in front of my house that I had to go out to clean up before the garbage truck arrived. So I started to bring them back to the supermarket only to find those same illegals and derelicts feeding shopping carts full of returnables into the recycling machine. What annoyed me is that they never bought a damn thing in that supermarket and I had to wait for them to finish before I could use the machine usually for 15 minutes or more. If curbside recycling is mandatory why do you have to pay a deposit on these containers? I called my assembly women Sandy Galef, and spoke with her personally and she told me it was to prevent littering. Which I replied: If you really want to prevent littering why don't you just put deposits on fast food containers that get tossed out the window of passing cars when the occupants are finished eating? Stone cold silence. Another thing I do not miss about New York.
It's idiotic to fine for not "properly" recycling. Recycling programs are a waste of money and busywork for consumers and recycling plant works as a whole. Most often it's more efficient just to make a new product than it is to recycle it. We are not in danger of landfill space, nor are we of losing trees. It's a waste. Criminalizing non-recycling behavior is criminal in itself. And yet NYers eat it up because they don't know any better.
"It's idiotic to fine for not "properly" recycling."
Not only that but they're paying someone to ride around in a pick up truck emblazoned with "Sanitation Supervisor" on the side to do it. I used to work for the Village of Irvington, N.Y. at the time the head of the department of sanitation also drove one of the garbage trucks. The highway superintendent drove the dump trucks and operated the front end loader. Man have times changed! Here in Arizona all trash goes into one bin, no fuss, no muss, no illegals or derelicts rummaging through your garbage and hogging the recycling machines at the supermarket. I really don't have a problem with recycling, it's the unintended consequences of it that I object to. New Yorkers do indeed eat it up, the more laws to control people's lives the better. They can keep it. We can just sit back, shake our heads and laugh. We're outta there. However, it is fun raising the ire of the "Progressives".
Not only that but they're paying someone to ride around in a pick up truck emblazoned with "Sanitation Supervisor" on the side to do it. I used to work for the Village of Irvington, N.Y. at the time the head of the department of sanitation also drove one of the garbage trucks. The highway superintendent drove the dump trucks and operated the front end loader. Man have times changed! Here in Arizona all trash goes into one bin, no fuss, no muss, no illegals or derelicts rummaging through your garbage and hogging the recycling machines at the supermarket. I really don't have a problem with recycling, it's the unintended consequences of it that I object to. New Yorkers do indeed eat it up, the more laws to control people's lives the better. They can keep it. We can just sit back, shake our heads and laugh. We're outta there. However, it is fun raising the ire of the "Progressives".
Brilliant post. I have heard similar educated brilliant posts from others in Arizona, ironically. I wish AZ had a beach, otherwise I'd be there right now! Cheers to you, mate.
Not only that but they're paying someone to ride around in a pick up truck emblazoned with "Sanitation Supervisor" on the side to do it. I used to work for the Village of Irvington, N.Y. at the time the head of the department of sanitation also drove one of the garbage trucks. The highway superintendent drove the dump trucks and operated the front end loader. Man have times changed! Here in Arizona all trash goes into one bin, no fuss, no muss, no illegals or derelicts rummaging through your garbage and hogging the recycling machines at the supermarket. I really don't have a problem with recycling, it's the unintended consequences of it that I object to. New Yorkers do indeed eat it up, the more laws to control people's lives the better. They can keep it. We can just sit back, shake our heads and laugh. We're outta there. However, it is fun raising the ire of the "Progressives".
That doesn't sound that much different then the fines you get in developments with a HOA, which is essentially a privatized form of government that is also very common in these Sunbelt areas. So, even in terms of fines, you still can be had and it is pretty simple to separate recyclable items.
"That doesn't sound that much different then the fines you get in developments with a HOA, which is essentially a privatized form of government that is also very common in these Sunbelt areas. So, even in terms of fines, you still can be had and it is pretty simple to separate recyclable items."
I don't live in an HOA we do have a choice, with government we do not.
"Brilliant post. I have heard similar educated brilliant posts from others in Arizona, ironically. I wish AZ had a beach, otherwise I'd be there right now! Cheers to you, mate."
Well at least you can come out and visit, love to have you. I'm glad your happy in South Carolina nothing wrong with that, I've heard it is a beautiful state. I just love the desert, something about it that is alluring.
Yeah, not sure what planet your HOA was on, but mine isn't like that. I throw out cans and bottles as I want to without penalty.
I'm not talking about bottles and cans, but in regards to other by laws and stipulations, if they aren't followed properly where you can get fined. I've never been fined for throwing a bottle out, by the way.
Not to stretch out a thread that was essentially finished about 8 posts in, but just get a bottle that doesn't leach and fill that up with water.
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Not only that but they're paying someone to ride around in a pick up truck emblazoned with "Sanitation Supervisor" on the side to do it. I used to work for the Village of Irvington, N.Y. at the time the head of the department of sanitation also drove one of the garbage trucks. The highway superintendent drove the dump trucks and operated the front end loader. Man have times changed! Here in Arizona all trash goes into one bin, no fuss, no muss....
Town of Brookhaven has 3 collections per week -- trash Monday & Thursday, recycling on Wednesday. We have single stream recycling which allows us to place cardboard, newspaper, plastics, glass, & cans in the same receptacle. Prior to that, cardboard/newspaper collection would alternate Wednesdays with glass/can/plastic.
My recycling and trash receptacles are next to one another, so it's really not troublesome.
I would be angry, too, if my garbage collector were sorting through my trash in an effort to fine me for not recycling -- that's nonsense.
"That doesn't sound that much different then the fines you get in developments with a HOA"
You keep comparing an HOA to government, HOA's are private entities you do not have to live in an HOA. Those who choose to live in an HOA willingly accept the terms of living there.
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