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Old 06-18-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What most people do when they can't afford to live where they work is commute. I mean, Manhattan has 1 million people but the metro has 18 million. You live in the NYC metro, commuting an hour is not uncommon to be able to afford a house. And its really not that bad.
I am not spending 2 hours a day commuting, when I could simply move to a cheaper metro area and commute less than 30 minutes. I know many people do the long commute thing, but it's not for me. Even with a 30 minute commute, it's bad enough that there's only so many hours in the day, in this busy day and age. In my opinion, having a long commute degrades quality of life.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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^This. Probably the most unappealing part of PA that I can think of. Homes within feet of major roads. Also, the dominance of rowhomes in small town PA. Just a style of living that people didn't mind back in the day that is really not what people prefer now. Here is where I am posting this from today, as I head back home from a few days in the Northern Tier of PA:

http://goo.gl/maps/KKMCK

No greenery, no shade (its 91* here right now), no place to hang out, nothing really inviting you in. And this is not a real cheap part of the Lehigh Valley either.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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I am not spending 2 hours a day commuting, when I could simply move to a cheaper metro area and commute less than 30 minutes. I know many people do the long commute thing, but it's not for me. Even with a 30 minute commute, it's bad enough that there's only so many hours in the day, in this busy day and age. In my opinion, having a long commute degrades quality of life.
I hear ya. NYC metro overall is just a pain. Keep me posted of interesting places that you find on your travels to the midwest-west US.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Capitol Hill - Washington, DC
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^This. Probably the most unappealing part of PA that I can think of. Homes within feet of major roads. Also, the dominance of rowhomes in small town PA. Just a style of living that people didn't mind back in the day that is really not what people prefer now.
Psh, I love my rowhome! A rowhome was the #1 type of housing I was trying to find when I moved down to Philly. I feel like the rowhomes make the neighborhood way more of a tight-knit community, something I find hugely appealing.
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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Psh, I love my rowhome! A rowhome was the #1 type of housing I was trying to find when I moved down to Philly. I feel like the rowhomes make the neighborhood way more of a tight-knit community, something I find hugely appealing.
You live in Manayunk! That's why I said "small town" PA. I can see rowhomes in Manayunk being appealing to some, as its just a real nice part of the city and has been gentrified quite a bit.

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I really like having a little space in front of my house, with a porch and some grass. At least a porch or stoop or somewhere to sit- a covered entranceway. Front doors that open directly to the street or public sidewalk are not for me.
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Capitol Hill - Washington, DC
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You live in Manayunk! That's why I said "small town" PA. I can see rowhomes in Manayunk being appealing to some, as its just a real nice part of the city and has been gentrified quite a bit.

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I really like having a little space in front of my house, with a porch and some grass. At least a porch or stoop or somewhere to sit- a covered entranceway. Front doors that open directly to the street or public sidewalk are not for me.
haha yeah I know, I was just giving you a hard time I do sometimes wish I had a front porch, but I've got a fenced in backyard, so that serves its purpose.
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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^This. Probably the most unappealing part of PA that I can think of. Homes within feet of major roads. Also, the dominance of rowhomes in small town PA. Just a style of living that people didn't mind back in the day that is really not what people prefer now. Here is where I am posting this from today, as I head back home from a few days in the Northern Tier of PA:

http://goo.gl/maps/KKMCK

No greenery, no shade (its 91* here right now), no place to hang out, nothing really inviting you in. And this is not a real cheap part of the Lehigh Valley either.
You think that is bad, here is an old coal town that has been discussed on other forums here and one I used to go by as a kid to trips Down South: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=mahan...,61.73,,0,0.07

It is a community of 4500 people, but with a population density of 9000 per square mile.
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Old 06-18-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Not Oneida
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Albany averages 60 inches of snow a year. In the past three years, the the Albany area has received 6 tornadoes, two of which were EF2 or greater (and one that was a mile wide), 2 hurricanes making landfall nearby (Irene being the worst of the two), two earthquakes (although minor), and one significant drought in 2012. And Albany is only ~4 hours away from Western New York. So those kinds of disasters do happen nearby.
Had a tornado couple miles up the road from me last night.

CNYcentral.com - Latest local news, weather and sports for Syracuse and Central New York
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Old 06-18-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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what usually leaves first, the people or the jobs?

if 10,000 people left WNY in one year, would there be a few thousand jobs looking for people or no?
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