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Old 09-14-2015, 10:49 PM
 
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My point is simply that all the criticisms you may levy against politicians of today and complement those of the late 1700's, if you understood the history of politics in the late 1700's, you'd realize that today's world of "dirty" politics is very mild compared to what was happening in 1797.
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Old 09-14-2015, 10:57 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Was an "Ex New Yorker". Am now a proud "Arizonan". There's just nothing like the taste of freedom! Or to be able to choose where to live.
What freedom? Would Savita Halappanavar been able to get lifesaving care in those states without ALEC's 72-hour waiting period model legislation? Because that is the case in Texas right now; it might as well have been Ireland where she died.

The Rockefeller drug laws have been reformed in NYS but here in Texas, it might as well be still the Middle Ages. Good luck getting caught with *A* joint in your pocket! You'll do hard time in Texas--most non-Texans would concede that the sentence is cruel and unusual!

Good thing you didn't relocate here; the border might cross you! There has been increasing anti-American sentiment here in Texas that there is a proposition about support for Texas secession on the GOP primary ballot in the upcoming election. Probably caused by all the Yankee carpetbaggers taking native Texan's jobs and driving up prices for everything (Low-COL is a priority for native Texans). I have been concocting a plan for the past few years to move to *America*, just in case, even though the COL is much higher than what I am used to.

Just want to give "ya'll" a fair warning if you are thinking about moving to the Sunbelt for "freedom" or other platitudes!
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Old 09-15-2015, 06:16 AM
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The whole problem with compromise is that every time there is a compromise between the two parties we lose a little more freedom. Until one day there will be nothing left to compromise. My only wish is that government would adhere to and abide by the Constitution as it is written. We'd all be a lot better off. Government may be a necessity but because of all of the self centered politicians that it is composed of it is not our friend. It is indeed a corrupt entity. Politicians for the most part are power hungry the bigger government becomes the more powerful the politician. There are very few of them that I trust and that goes for both sides. Voting unfortunately becomes choosing the lessor of the two evils. Man I gotta go, but it has been a pleasure discussing these topics.
Compromise is not loss of freedom but a display of party politics, show me one bill that can be passed without concessions to both sides being tacked on. I often feel that those seeking elected office have failed to remember that they are there to represent their constituents not secure life long befits for themselves. I fully agree with the frying pan/skillet analogy....
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Old 09-15-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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As usual, NY gained in population because of immigration from third world countries:

More residents left New York than any other state in 2013 | New York Post
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True, but politics are responsible for high taxation. Being taxed out of your home is equal to a loss of economic freedom. As you have no control over how much they take. Can't afford the property tax? They put a lien on your home. You could lose it to foreclosure. In spite of having no mortgage. So in a sense it really doesn't belong to you ever. You are renting it from the community that you live in. Yet that community never put a dime into it regarding it's upkeep and maintenance. Property taxes are blatantly unfair and are not based on your income or ability to pay. Any loss of income or of a job, retirement, whatever, regardless the property taxes will always be what they are.

Politicians and the special interests that support them have an insatiable demand for more money. Mainly the public employees and teachers unions that have had a stranglehold on New York's legislature for as long as I can remember. It is the property tax that mainly goes to pay for those services. Those who don't own any property pay little or nothing towards those services. Unless of course if they rent then those taxes are part of the monthly rent. In those cases the landlord effectively doesn't pay any property taxes. In addition to the tax breaks they already receive by owning rental property. The single family homeowners in New York State are the ones who really get screwed. Sure the property taxes may be cheaper upstate but the homes are worth considerably less money. They are still astronomically high when compared to other parts of the country for a comparable home in a comparable neighborhood.

Where I live in Arizona. My $300,000 home is equivalent to that of a $700,000 home in a nice section of Westchester. A hell of a lot nicer than Peekskill! More like Briarcliff Manor. My annual taxes are $1600 a year. My sister has a $700,000 home in Dobbs Ferry and her taxes are $22,000 a year. If she were to move out here she would maintain the same standard of living and save $20,400 a year in taxes. That's $20,400 that she can do with as she pleases. By the way her home is up for sale and she is moving to Florida.

I can't tell you how good it feels to be able to walk into a store and buy things that you want but don't need. Things that we've always wanted but could never afford had we stayed in New York. Instead of only being able to afford the basic necessities. There is nothing like economic freedom! Just the thought that you no longer have to struggle both on a personal level and to support the insatiable beast which is New York's state and local governments.

Of course as staunch Conservatives. My wife and I detest both Liberal politics, Liberal politicians and their social policies. So moving to a "Red" state was a no brainer for us. Plus a lifelong fascination of the Southwest and desire to live here made our choice an easy one. We have not been disappointed not in the least and would never even consider moving back. Or to any other place for that matter. This is where we truly belong.
If it's so great where you are, why the hell do you two constantly prowl the New York forum to tell us how bad New York is and how great your new areas are? You sound like a pair of discarded bimbos sitting at a bar trying to convince yourselves -- and the world -- that you're doing just fine without your sugar daddies.
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Old 09-15-2015, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If it's so great where you are, why the hell do you two constantly prowl the New York forum to tell us how bad New York is and how great your new areas are? You sound like a pair of discarded bimbos sitting at a bar trying to convince yourselves -- and the world -- that you're doing just fine without your sugar daddies.
Read the title of this thread! Or can't you read?
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Old 09-15-2015, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Compromise is not loss of freedom but a display of party politics, show me one bill that can be passed without concessions to both sides being tacked on. I often feel that those seeking elected office have failed to remember that they are there to represent their constituents not secure life long befits for themselves. I fully agree with the frying pan/skillet analogy....
Can't argue that!
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Old 09-15-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What freedom? Would Savita Halappanavar been able to get lifesaving care in those states without ALEC's 72-hour waiting period model legislation? Because that is the case in Texas right now; it might as well have been Ireland where she died.

The Rockefeller drug laws have been reformed in NYS but here in Texas, it might as well be still the Middle Ages. Good luck getting caught with *A* joint in your pocket! You'll do hard time in Texas--most non-Texans would concede that the sentence is cruel and unusual!

Good thing you didn't relocate here; the border might cross you! There has been increasing anti-American sentiment here in Texas that there is a proposition about support for Texas secession on the GOP primary ballot in the upcoming election. Probably caused by all the Yankee carpetbaggers taking native Texan's jobs and driving up prices for everything (Low-COL is a priority for native Texans). I have been concocting a plan for the past few years to move to *America*, just in case, even though the COL is much higher than what I am used to.

Just want to give "ya'll" a fair warning if you are thinking about moving to the Sunbelt for "freedom" or other platitudes!
Just don't get caught with a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds in New York. It's a class E felony including those which were legally owned. Most Arizonan's would find the sentence cruel and unusual. New York's Governor Cuomo claimed that anyone that does not think like him is not welcome in New York. As far as gun laws go New york may as well be in the Middle Ages. Enjoy your joint! I guess we're even.

Besides if you're so unhappy living in Texas maybe you should do what the rest of us have done and move to a state more to your liking. How 'bout Colorado where you can sit around smoking pot all day. Maybe it's your substance abuse that's preventing you from getting a decent job? Oh sure it's those damn yankee carpetbaggers. Just take a look in the mirror my friend.

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Old 09-16-2015, 05:30 AM
 
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If it's so great where you are, why the hell do you two constantly prowl the New York forum to tell us how bad New York is and how great your new areas are? You sound like a pair of discarded bimbos sitting at a bar trying to convince yourselves -- and the world -- that you're doing just fine without your sugar daddies.
Served!
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:34 AM
 
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Read the title of this thread! Or can't you read?
She told you!
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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She told you!
I see that neither you or Linda_d have any issues with Liberals who've moved out of New York State posting their opinions? Which by the way is the subject of this thread. Freedom of expression is a another cornerstone of our Republic. It's people like you and Linda_D that have put into power a legislature and a Governor who stated in public that people who do not think like him are not welcome in New York. So your comments come as no surprise. As people who do not think like you should not be allowed to express their opinions or at the least be discouraged from doing so. You've destroyed with your social policies and attitudes towards people who do not think like you what was once a great state. It is the number one reason that I and so many others have left. It's also because of people like you and Linda_d that I will continue to fight Progressive Liberal social policies wherever they rear their ugly head. Be it on this forum or anywhere else. As long as we have freedom of expression that is. Enjoy your little socialist dictatorship. One day you will have reaped what you have sown.
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