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I've got a lot of friends that think the opposite from me, and many friends and acquaintances that I have no idea their political persuasion. Who cares. It allows us to learn from each other. If anything, I've noticed that conservatives are much more tolerant than the other. They just want to be left alone. I think Scott Baio said it best the other day: "Conservatives want you to live your life, liberals want you to live their life."
You've got it "JW"! It's just such a pleasure to be not living amongst them. 2437 miles away to be exact. I just can't help but point out their hypocrisy, incivility and intolerance of those with whom they disagree.
It's bad enough that they set out to destroy the 2nd Amendment, they're now after the 1st. Whether they like it or not we are a "Constitutional Republic" and not a democracy in which the majority because of "Constitutional Law" can not enslave the minority with their authoritarian/statist mentality. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are designed to prevent that sort of thing. No wonder Liberals are so opposed to it. Believing and advocating that it is a "living breathing document" that can be changed anytime to suit their particular agenda.
If your intent was simply to determine political demographics, easily found voting records and party registration numbers is your best source. The guesses of strangers on the internet are hardly a reliable metric.
Pretty sure most would agree you come across as having the "chip." You titled the thread "Best places in Catskills to avoid conservatives?"
You described "conservatives" as "loud and nasty people."
Frankly, it seems you are the one trying to pick a fight. Borderline trolling IMO.
Official sources to show political party numbers are easily found. If you truly want to "avoid" those "loud and nasty" conservatives, most of the catskills is a bad choice.
And you simply validate what the other poster wrote. I haven't met anyone in the catskills who base their level of "welcome" on someone's political leanings. From YOUR posts in this thread it seems that you are the one judging people based on the lever they pull in the voting booth. You apply a negative stereotype to people in an entire region of New York, with no facts to back up your assertions. It is political racism.
This would happen anywhere. Come into an area with pre-conceived negative stereotypes about the residents, condescend to them, call them "loud and nasty," say that you want to move to their area only if you can "avoid them" - all without knowing ANYTHING about them except what political party they MAY have voted for.
And you expect the welcome wagon to roll out like you are the second coming?
The catskills are definitely not the area for you. Most people there have no time or patience for BS like this.
Outstanding "Joe"! I thought of something else to add, but you couldn't have said it any better. GREAT JOB!
I will say that people seem to over politicize things way too much in this society and I find the deification of political ideologies to be more of a religion than politics or about an opinion on how to effectively govern.
With all of this, OP, I'd say to look into the communities that fit what you are looking for outside of real or perceived ideology. There have been some communities already mentioned and perhaps there are others you may be comfortable with.
You described "conservatives" as "loud and nasty people."
Frankly, it seems you are the one trying to pick a fight. Borderline trolling IMO.
You're intentially taking that out of context. Why don't you quote my whole paragraph?
Here it is:
Are the Catskills overrun by conservatives and other potentially loud and nasty people? Not trying to offend anyone but I've already had some weird encounters up there and am trying to understand why. Maybe it's not political. Maybe it's something else.
And "potentially nasty and loud people" can be anyone of an opposite political persuasion. In other words, they could be potentially nasty and loud to me because I'm a liberal, not necessarily because they are conservatives. Or liberals can be potentially nasty and loud to you because you're a conservative, not because they are liberals.
Also, you guys started up just because you didn't like the idea of someone wanting to avoid conservatives and you're intent on not letting this go as part of your routine of harassing and abusing liberals. So I'm going to report all the CONSERVATIVE troublemakers in this thread to the mods and alert them to the fact that this thread could get very LOUD and NASTY if not shut down.
I have the info I wanted and now will take great pleasure in denying you CONSERVATIVE TROLLS this thread as a platform. Stay frosty.
You're the one who started it. By using the word "other" you're implying that Conservatives are loud and nasty people. No wonder so many people are hostile to your attitude towards people that you don't even know. I believe it's called bigotry. So much for tolerance and civility that you demand of others. I called you out on it. Proving my point. I guess you can't take it. Besides I have every right to express my opinions. Or do you so called "Progressives" wish to take that away also. Again look in the mirror my friend, everything that you despise in others is staring right back at you.
See my post above. Oh, and I reported you're trolling axx.
See my post above. Oh, and I reported you're trolling axx.
Well isn't that great? I don't like what others have to say so silence or shut 'em down. Thanks for proving my point yet again. You sure can dish it out but you can't take it. What type of response did you expect from your hateful rhetoric? I could just as easily report you for trolling also. You see it works both ways. Or are you the final arbiter of who gets to express their opinions? But you know what? I'm not going to. As a Constitutionalist I believe in freedom of expression even for people like you of whom I detest. It's no wonder that others do not want you moving into their community or have given you the cold shoulder. With your attitude no matter where you go you'll probably end up being miserable having very few friends. But you don't have to worry. Not that you've succeeded in your arguments, but I'm done. I've come to the conclusion that you're just not worth another minute of my time.
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Well isn't that great? Another example of tolerance and civility. I don't like what others have to say so shut 'em down. Thank's for proving my point yet again. But you don't have to worry, I'm done. I've come to the conclusion that you're just not worth another minute of my time.
Please. You entered this thread for only one reason. To prove my point.
I'm planning to buy a small piece of land in the Catskills but I'm trying to get an idea of the current social atmosphere up there before I do.
Are the Catskills overrun by conservatives and other potentially loud and nasty people? Not trying to offend anyone but I've already had some weird encounters up there and am trying to understand why. Maybe it's not political. Maybe it's something else.
Older people from where I live tell me not to buy up there but I, up until recently, I've always brushed them off as scared or conservatives who just don't understand the area.
However, my few encounters with people there have been either over the top in your face or creepily avoidant as if suspicious. I've encountered neighbors yelling out car windows trying to discourage me purchasing land while I was viewing it. And real estate agents that have been either nasty or weird acting and standoffish. At one point I suspected a local was trailing me in their car but veered away when I accidentally drove toward a municipal area.
I was all excited to get a place up there but now I'm hesitating.
So what's going on up there in your estimation? Cabin fever? What are the real estate agencies and neighborhoods to avoid? Do any of them racial profile or play favorites with any types of people? What's the social atmosphere like up there?
I'm withholding my ethnicity and state of origin (let's say tri-state area) for obvious reasons so I'm just asking how they deal with a spectrum of outsiders, in general, up there before I start looking again. I will say I'm a single male so maybe they view us suspiciously up there?
Thanks.
Liberals are the loudest and nastiest people out there.
Liberals are the loudest and nastiest people out there.
Ah, yes another fan of "Shankapotomus". Thanks for backing me up! I guess I'm not alone. I placed "Shankapotomus" on my ignore list. It's a nice feature, just go to "my settings" at the upper left and scroll down the list. This way they can post all they want and I won't be able to read it or even respond to them. He/she has every right to express their opinions. Which I steadfastly believe in, and I have every right to ignore them. Just as I have gotten out of New York State and moved to a state that is more compatible with my political beliefs and lifestyle. I'm surprised that they wouldn't do the same instead of trying to move to another location and try and ram their agenda down other people's throats. Or complain about their lifestyle or beliefs. But regardless of where I live, I've made it my mission in life to fight against Liberalism/Progressivism/Socialism/Communism, what ever you want to call it. They are one and the same. May God save our "Constitutional Republic" from these people or forever hold our piece.
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I've made it my mission in life to fight against Liberalism/Progressivism/Socialism/Communism, what ever you want to call it. They are one and the same.
I rest my case! Now everyone knows Ex New Yorker had a predefined agenda before entering this thread. There they are admitting it.
All this because a liberal said they didn't want to live in a conservative area! Big deal! Get over it! If that doesn't prove my point, I don't know what will!
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