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Old 04-28-2016, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Westchester is much more white collar than LI as a whole.
I agree. In my social circle, LI is a notch below Westchester in terms of rep and demographics. Westchester has the Clintons in Chappaqua, the Metro North and access to CT and rest of NEPA/New England vs LI which doesnt have much access t anything other than long drives to any bridges or a costly ride to CT via Port Jeff or Orient Point ferries. LI is full of mostly Queens/Bklyn expats, and the LIRR is convenient only for people working in Flatbush Ave, Bklyn or west side by Penn as pretty much any job near Grand Central will require a subway transfer (the 2nd Ave LIRR is still years away from fruition).

The majority of uber wealthy Manhattanites dont choose LI to raise a family (unless they have family or are willng to deal w LIRR from Port Washington). Most head to Scarsdale, Chappaqua, Briarcliff Manor or New Jersey.

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Old 05-02-2016, 10:25 AM
 
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Well don't they say (on City-Data at least):

North Shore LI = Westchester

South Shore LI = Staten Island
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:59 PM
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Well don't they say (on City-Data at least):

North Shore LI = Westchester

South Shore LI = Staten Island
Though there isn't much of a north shore - south shore different in voting patterns. If anything, the north shore outside of the Jewish Nassau areas is a bit more Republican.

Westchester is a bit more affluent than Nassau; but the bigger difference is it's more educated. Westchester is 55% white non-hispanic; Nassau is 62% which explains a large part of the difference.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:01 PM
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However, Westchester has a higher percentage of college graduates and those with postgraduate educations than LI, and that difference would be more pronounced in the NHW populations only. In the NYC area, the professional class is more D than the white working class/lower middle class.
The highly educated vote more Democratic, but otherwise higher income place vote more Republican. Garden City is one of the more affluent and Republican towns on Long Island.
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:47 AM
 
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The highly educated vote more Democratic, but otherwise higher income place vote more Republican. Garden City is one of the more affluent and Republican towns on Long Island.
Ridiculous. All those super wealthy people in Manhattan, Brownstone Brooklyn, Boston, DC, Philly, LA, SF, the Hamptons and other rich enclaves vote Republican. Really?

In Westchester, you will find white working-class neighborhoods in Yonkers are solidly Republican, while super-rich areas like Scarsdale and Chappaqua are solidly Democratic.
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Old 05-11-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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Its wrong to say that the rich vote one way or another - some are liberal and some are conservative.

Westchester is more Democratic than Republican than Nassau and Suffolk for two reasons:
1) It contains real cities that have urban, minority poor populations that vote Democratic almost exclusively.
2) Its rich people, of which there are many, often came from Manhattan, and the rich people who live in Manhattan are almost always liberal. And by coming from Manhattan I don't necessarily mean born and raised there. They could come from any where, but did a stop in Manhattan at some point. Or, the rich people who choose to live in Westchester are often the type that would otherwise live in Manhattan.

This is not to say that Westchester is universally Democratic. There are a lot of Republicans also, and there are areas where they dominate, especially as you move north and the still well-to-do areas are populated by more of your lower end white collar types with a more steak and potatoes view towards life.
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:43 AM
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Ridiculous. All those super wealthy people in Manhattan, Brownstone Brooklyn, Boston, DC, Philly, LA, SF, the Hamptons and other rich enclaves vote Republican. Really?

In Westchester, you will find white working-class neighborhoods in Yonkers are solidly Republican, while super-rich areas like Scarsdale and Chappaqua are solidly Democratic.
I'm referring to the suburbs of the NYC region if that wasn't clear, in particular Long Island.

As for Los Angeles, Beverly Hills is about 50-50 Democrat / Republican
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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Though there isn't much of a north shore - south shore different in voting patterns. If anything, the north shore outside of the Jewish Nassau areas is a bit more Republican.

Westchester is a bit more affluent than Nassau; but the bigger difference is it's more educated. Westchester is 55% white non-hispanic; Nassau is 62% which explains a large part of the difference.
Do you know where I can find a map of the precincts for Nassau used in the 2012 presidential election?

You can get 2014 governor here:

How Long Island voted for governor
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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Its rich people, of which there are many, often came from Manhattan, and the rich people who live in Manhattan are almost always liberal. And by coming from Manhattan I don't necessarily mean born and raised there. They could come from any where, but did a stop in Manhattan at some point. Or, the rich people who choose to live in Westchester are often the type that would otherwise live in Manhattan.
Makes sense. It seems that most those who do the Manhattan stint and then move to the suburbs opt for Westchester or NJ over LI. For whatever reason LI has a more "insular" reputation (either because of stereotypes or geographic isolation).

It's probably been decades, perhaps not since the 1960s, that Manhattanites were moving to LI in significant numbers.
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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Makes sense. It seems that most those who do the Manhattan stint and then move to the suburbs opt for Westchester or NJ over LI. For whatever reason LI has a more "insular" reputation (either because of stereotypes or geographic isolation).

It's probably been decades, perhaps not since the 1960s, that Manhattanites were moving to LI in significant numbers.
I believe another part of the reason is that most everywhere in Westchester is more easily accessible to midtown Manhattan vs Long Island. One of the furthest points in Westchester is about 55 miles to midtown, which is exactly how far I am from the same point. Only thing is that I am only about halfway out on Long Island; there's still a lot of Island left to traverse.

Another consideration is transportation. If you're in Westchester and need to head to Boston, you have options. For those of us out further on LI, we have to decide between one of two ferries (Port Jefferson/Bridgeport CT or Orient Point/New London CT or driving west into NYC to head back around to Boston. We can take a train into Penn (again with the west movement and backtracking) and then transfer to Boston. Or we can take the Port Jeff Ferry and connect with Amtrak in Bridgeport.
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