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View Poll Results: Are home prices going to fall of rise?
You feel it is a buyers market and the home prices over the next year will FALL by 0-5% 12 17.39%
You feel it is a buyers market and the home prices over the next year will FALL by 5.1-10% 12 17.39%
You feel it is a buyers market and the home prices over the next year will FALL by 10.1-15% 5 7.25%
You feel it is a buyers market and the home prices over the next year will FALL by 15.1+ 5 7.25%
You feel that the market over the next year will NEITHER FALL OR RISE but rather STABILIZE. 25 36.23%
You feel it is a sellers market and the home prices over the next year will INCREASE by 0-5% 5 7.25%
You feel it is a sellers market and the home prices over the next year will INCREASE by 5.1-10% 1 1.45%
ou feel it is a sellers market and the home prices over the next year will INCREASE by 10.1-15% 2 2.90%
You feel it is a sellers market and the home prices over the next year will INCREASE by 15.1+ 2 2.90%
Voters: 69. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-27-2007, 01:03 PM
 
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I am done arguing with you. You are simply a know it all. By the way the taxes are not the same.

 
Old 02-27-2007, 02:06 PM
 
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I am done arguing with you. You are simply a know it all. By the way the taxes are not the same.
I don't claim to know it all, nor am I arguing with you. I understand that we are talking about YOUR home here. However, I know my industry very well and have over two decades of expierience. None-the-less I never stop for a chance to learn and educate myself. I would urge you to talk to your tax accessor at your local town hall. you will find that due to the housing demand in our area and the need to expand our tazx base that you will actually benefit from building new than buying existing.

I know that you have been on this board trying to sell you home and I commend you for dropping your price. all I am saying is that if you droped it enough than you would of sold by now. this is the harsh reality and you don't need me to tell you this. I wish you luck in selling your home, it must be tough in this current market and unfortunatly for the sellers out there it will get worse before it gets any better.
 
Old 02-27-2007, 02:48 PM
 
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exterior walls were commonly built from 2x4 studs instead of the now mandated 2x6's due to the new energy conservation code which mandates what the minimum insulation must be on the building envelope. ....also floor and roof construction were built with 2x6 where now they are built with 2x10 or even 2x12. .... Older homes were built with plaster lath, cribbing and mesh on walls and are now built out of Sheetrock. on the floors you now have toungue and groove 3/4 plywood where in the day they used slatted 1/2 x 3 wood boards ...It is unnecessary to frame interior walls out of 2x6 12" oc. when you have got engineered tji's ad gluelam ect this is a complete waste. ... crawl space vs. full basement has nothing to do with being older or new construction and just has to do with ewhere the water table is and what the budget of the homeowner was when the home was built.....Buyers should demand more of their builders and sellers. don't settle for second best ever.
We could go 'round and 'round for awhile on construction preferences, I'm sure -- which I've no intention of doing, but I do want to say that when I built that second house it was in the early 1990s before the current building codes went into effect; thus at that time my house was "overbuilt" according to existing common practice. And as a matter of fact the roof framing WAS done in 2x12s.

I think you and I are thinking of different things when we say "older" homes. The homes you describe that have lath-and-plaster, wood board flooring and even in many cases literally tree-trunks as foundation support (!) are what I call "vintage" homes... something built, say, in 1940 and earlier (often much earlier!). The post-WWII houses built from the mid-late 1940s through the 1970s are what I call "older" homes (you did mention the 1971 ranch in Patchogue as being an "older" home so that's what I picked up on).

As far as the 2x6 interior framing, this happens to be a personal preference of ours. The house/size was such that the heavier framing worked well from both a structural and a design (appearance) standpoint. And we had no problem using conventional insulation at the time (early 1990s); we didn't want blown-in insulation. The house was also designed with chases for all the HVAC ductwork and plumbing. The foundation (full-height basement) was indeed poured concrete combined with structural steel supports and full waterproofing on the exterior. Microlams were also used in many areas, because of the size and in particular the unusual depth (front to back) of the house, as well as several very large rooms resulting in wide spans.

When we sold that house, the buyer's inspector (who has been in that business for many years) told us that it was the best-built house he had ever inspected on Long Island.

I agree with you about the foundation types. I was only saying that if I were, for example, comparing a newly built home on a slab with an older home with either a basement or a cement-floored crawlspace, I would consider the slab as a "strike against" the newly built house. But again that is just personal preference.

I completely agree that buyers should demand more of builders and have higher standards for what they are willing to spend their money on, housewise.

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Old 02-27-2007, 03:20 PM
 
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It is interesting if you view the North Carolina forum where houses are being built like crazy there are so many complaints about the builders down there.
 
Old 02-27-2007, 09:08 PM
 
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It is interesting if you view the North Carolina forum where houses are being built like crazy there are so many complaints about the builders down there.
I have personally stepped foot in new construction in NC and development construction there as well and can tell you that home builders there have much more pride in building than up here. I really don't know why that is. but its true... I don't know who those people are that say these things but my comment comes from expierience.
 
Old 02-27-2007, 09:12 PM
 
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Overtaxed... I was kinda hoping that we could go round and round on construction as you give a valued insight to things... again, what you and I are syaing overall is not too different from one another.

I highly commend you for overbuilding that home and only hope that you had enough of an educated person who was willing to buy the home from you at a fair cost. thank you for your insight.
 
Old 03-06-2007, 09:24 PM
 
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I figured that I start this up again for anyone who wants to jump on board and vote ...
 
Old 03-07-2007, 03:50 PM
 
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Let this thread die a natural death already. It's played out!
 
Old 03-07-2007, 05:05 PM
 
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Thanks NYTom my thoughts exactly!
 
Old 03-07-2007, 09:26 PM
 
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Let this thread die a natural death already. It's played out!

whats the matter are you trying to sell a home too? Awhhhh poor baby, can't sell the home for a cool mill and realized that you missed the boat. Its a harsh reality isn't it?

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