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Old 04-13-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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Cuomo's ban on fracking in NYS and rejection of natural gas pipelines through NYS to New England was seen as a landmark victory for environmentalists. But can this energy source be replaced with wind turbines?


Anyone know what the positions are of the candidates for NYS governor with respect to ending Cuomo's ban?


https://www.pressconnects.com/story/...gap/477178002/
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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Only in NYS. Fracking is alive and well elsewhere in the country. And if oil prices rise, it will make a huge comeback.

And no, wind turbines can't replace it. Neither can solar. They are base load generators and their output isn't reliable.

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Cuomo's ban on fracking in NYS and rejection of natural gas pipelines through NYS to New England was seen as a landmark victory for environmentalists. But can this energy source be replaced with wind turbines?


Anyone know what the positions are of the candidates for NYS governor with respect to ending Cuomo's ban?


https://www.pressconnects.com/story/...gap/477178002/
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:58 PM
 
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Only in NYS. Fracking is alive and well elsewhere in the country. And if oil prices rise, it will make a huge comeback.

And no, wind turbines can't replace it. Neither can solar. They are base load generators and their output isn't reliable.
The other problem is the same people who blocked fracking are doing all they can to block wind mills. I guess NY will go back to the medieval era. LOL

Fracking is doing very well in Pennsylvania.

As for as wind goes, it's pretty reliable in some areas. That doesn't mean we can rely entirely on wind, but there are places that are good candidates for wind power/ . Including NY's shoreline. There should be windmills of the coast of Brooklyn, Queens, Nassau, and Suffolk but people complained about that too.
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Old 04-15-2018, 10:08 PM
 
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Only in NYS. Fracking is alive and well elsewhere in the country. And if oil prices rise, it will make a huge comeback.

And no, wind turbines can't replace it. Neither can solar. They are base load generators and their output isn't reliable.
That or we can actually figure out storage. The first country's industry to do it en masse gets the prize of being able to export it to the world as economies of scale and greater experience kicks in.

We partially screwed up the ramp up to solar panels. Let's see if we can do better on the one for storage and smart grids.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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The other problem is the same people who blocked fracking are doing all they can to block wind mills. I guess NY will go back to the medieval era. LOL

Fracking is doing very well in Pennsylvania.
It all depends on WHERE in PA you are talking about, I suppose...this is the area just over the state line, very near to where I live.

They came, they drilled, and for now some have left this Tioga County town | PennLive.com

There was a lot of discussion about infrastructure that couldn't support the equipment, rising home prices/rent (to the point that the locals couldn't afford it, because the only people making enough to pay the skyrocketing rents were the guys with the drilling operations....meanwhile the teachers, waitresses, cops, and other local workers were not seeing comparably rising wages), and crime problems.
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:21 PM
 
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Yeah, really glad the fracking nightmare didn't hit upstate. The wind turbines that did go up have been unfavorable as well to many.
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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This is an older article from NPR, but PA is fine with NY not allowing Fracking. Our liberal/progressive Democrat Governor is OK with it too, as it is providing a lot of tax, and fee revenue to the Commonwealth. A lot of upstate, PA towns have come back because of fracking.

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Pennsylvania's fracking boom has led to record-breaking natural gas production, but its neighbor, New York, announced Wednesday it was banning the practice. Industry and environmental groups say New York's decision could be good for Pennsylvania.
https://www.npr.org/2014/12/18/37164...h-pennsylvania
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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I hope New York gets a candidate who will introduce fracking and show once and for all it is safe , clean and cheap. To think the highest taxed state with the worst and most corrupt government would parade itself as some kind of beacon to the future is total hypocrisy.

NY needs a complete house-cleaning and a new focus on attracting business and reducing government in order to finally help it's residents. How many people have to leave New York before someone in Albany takes notice? This whole clean water and air thing is just a fake, ineffective distraction.

NY is too much of a nanny state and only getting worse.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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PS-I lived around fracking in a beautiful suburb for about 20 years. It is not a 'nightmare' like the screechers in NY say-you hardly know it exists. All those photos of these concrete slabs and cranes are just the construction stage, but the antis would have you believe that's the way fracking looks all the time. They go away. Believe me, telephone poles and wires are much worse.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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Pros and cons of Fracking from the BBC, which includes aspects in respect to the UK: Fracking: The pros and cons of extracting shale gas - BBC News
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