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This list should be called: Which metros are the easiest for the average person to live in?
Always liked the HOI metric. It seems the most honest. It truly is not what you make, its what you spend. Sure, many of the top cities have bad weather (top 25 cities are all pretty cloudy and snowy, Lexington Park MD is the exception) but this in part keeps prices down. Bottom line, if you're a simple, average person, you're money will go the furthest in these cities.
I find upwards of 70% of my expenditures goes toward housing. Its mind-boggling that the most basic of human needs goes toward simply keeping dry and warm. And I think its going to get even worse as time goes on.
I find upwards of 70% of my expenditures goes toward housing. Its mind-boggling that the most basic of human needs goes toward simply keeping dry and warm. And I think its going to get even worse as time goes on.
Oh, it will absolutely get worse, especially when talking about utilities. Cuomo wants us to go 100% green. I like solar and wind, but they are much more expensive, and really not reliable. Need replacing often, not to mention very dirty manufacturing process for both of them.
Oh, it will absolutely get worse, especially when talking about utilities. Cuomo wants us to go 100% green. I like solar and wind, but they are much more expensive, and really not reliable. Need replacing often, not to mention very dirty manufacturing process for both of them.
He is in PA, not NY. If I'm not mistaken.
On a side note, if this list was extended to say 30 spots, I wouldn't be surprised if Rochester would have been included.
Oh, it will absolutely get worse, especially when talking about utilities. Cuomo wants us to go 100% green. I like solar and wind, but they are much more expensive, and really not reliable. Need replacing often, not to mention very dirty manufacturing process for both of them.
Solar and wind aren't reliable enough in the Northeast yet. Solar CAN be, in the desert Southwest and CA. Just spent a few weeks out in CA, and I can't understand why there isn't more solar. Every single day was strongly sun.
Going green is admirable and will need to happen at some point, but using bridge fuels like nuclear and natural gas may be necessary. As long as their done with safety as the #1 concern I think they can work.
I'm actually seeing my utility usage drop. These new heat pump systems extract heat from air as cold as -5. That could work in all but the coldest spots. And you're even starting to see 96% efficient gas boilers for domestic and heat. Those flue gases are barely warm to the touch, all the heat has been extracted and used.
On a side note, if this list was extended to say 30 spots, I wouldn't be surprised if Rochester would have been included.
Yes, I am currently living in PA. Gonna be closing on a vacation cabin in Lake Luzerne soon. If all goes to plan, I'm going to renovate it next year and move up full-time. Love the area and the peacefulness of it all. Not liking PA that much anymore.
Rochester was #42 on that list. Out of 248 that's still quite affordable, housing wise. A-S-T is #58 which I am comfortable with.
I always seem to see cheaper houses in Buffalo. But I'm not sure where they draw the lines of the metro area.
Same here and the family median income is actually a little bit higher in the Buffalo area, according to the NAHB list. The Buffalo metro area is just Erie and Niagara counties.
Like I've mentioned in the past, people may not realize how small in land area the Buffalo metro is for having over 1 million people within it. Only Hartford and Milwaukee are smaller in terms of land area and having over 1 million people in the metro area.
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