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I read that he’s going to allow more renter vouchers and stop redlining. I may not understand exactly what this means or if it’s done anymore but we rent in Bayside and am a Latin American looking to move into our first home in Nassau or Suffolk. Is what I’ve read an indication that in the middle class or wealthier areas of nassau and suffolk there’s going to be renters with vouchers and no long island community is exempt from these laws?
I admit I don’t know much at all about real estate or Biden’s plan but it was a headline I read and you guys were super helpful to me 10 years ago when I moved to Bayside. I know my question sounds elementary sorry I thought someone may know if housing will be affected in this way with renters with vouchers moving into their communities.
I didn’t even know they weren’t allowed to before and don’t know what voucher they are referring to.
Thank you. Sorry if this doesn’t make much sense I’m trying to type with a toddler climbing over me .
It won’t mean much. He is a neoliberal and nyc is mainly effected by its city council and Albany . Kamela is pretty much the president and even libs know it.
It won’t mean much. He is a neoliberal and nyc is mainly effected by its city council and Albany . Kamela is pretty much the president and even libs know it.
ok thank you. I’m sorry if this sounds stupid I just didn’t know if that meant renters with vouchers will now start moving in (under Biden and Kamala) a lot more possibly in droves to middle class or wealthy areas in long island. thank you
Some one else i spoke to in another forum responded “Not if Biden issues a directive that withholds Federal monies for states and cities who do not join in his plan. Government housing placed smack dab in suburbia that moves poor people from the cities into the suburbs is what they want to do. Say goodbye to your peaceful lifestyle and safe schools.
It started under Obama with his FFFH (Further Furthering Fair Housing) plan, and a President Biden will take it further. Funny how these ideas never seem to affect the neighborhoods they live in.”
Wondering as to your insights on their comment thank you everybody
Some one else i spoke to in another forum responded “Not if Biden issues a directive that withholds Federal monies for states and cities who do not join in his plan. Government housing placed smack dab in suburbia that moves poor people from the cities into the suburbs is what they want to do. Say goodbye to your peaceful lifestyle and safe schools.
It started under Obama with his FFFH (Further Furthering Fair Housing) plan, and a President Biden will take it further. Funny how these ideas never seem to affect the neighborhoods they live in.”
Wondering as to your insights on their comment thank you everybody
As always with government programs, they sound good on the surface, but they never consider the secondary consequences of these actions. The federal government built a low income housing project in Greece (Rochester area), and ever since, the police and FD are busier. Very poor construction, as the federal government doesn't have to follow local building codes. School performance has declined.
If they are supporting moving people to the suburbs, what happens to the city as population drops?
When more people move to the burbs, people will move farther out, contributing to sprawl. Many with money will move into the cities. The end result is you will have moved "the city" to the suburbs.
I know it's not a popular viewpoint to have, but the government and politicians can't fix these problems. Only the people themselves can.
As always with government programs, they sound good on the surface, but they never consider the secondary consequences of these actions. The federal government built a low income housing project in Greece (Rochester area), and ever since, the police and FD are busier. Very poor construction, as the federal government doesn't have to follow local building codes. School performance has declined.
If they are supporting moving people to the suburbs, what happens to the city as population drops?
When more people move to the burbs, people will move farther out, contributing to sprawl. Many with money will move into the cities. The end result is you will have moved "the city" to the suburbs.
I know it's not a popular viewpoint to have, but the government and politicians can't fix these problems. Only the people themselves can.
Where and are all of these things true? I ask in regards to the last part, because the Greece overall SD grad rate has been 90% on average for the last 2 years available according to the NYSED Report Card for the SD. https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000051588
As always with government programs, they sound good on the surface, but they never consider the secondary consequences of these actions. The federal government built a low income housing project in Greece (Rochester area), and ever since, the police and FD are busier. Very poor construction, as the federal government doesn't have to follow local building codes. School performance has declined.
If they are supporting moving people to the suburbs, what happens to the city as population drops?
When more people move to the burbs, people will move farther out, contributing to sprawl. Many with money will move into the cities. The end result is you will have moved "the city" to the suburbs.
I know it's not a popular viewpoint to have, but the government and politicians can't fix these problems. Only the people themselves can.
I agree. The "bedrock" of liberalism, seems to reward the slackers, by "evening out" the efforts of those who actually have a sense of pride, accomplishment, and a work ethic. The goal of the liberals has been to pepper the burbs with "low income housing", apparently thinking that this will somehow motivate people to work harder. It seldom does.
On the east side of Monroe County, you have 'The Pines of Perinton', on the Fairport/Perinton town line, and 'Phillips Village', in Webster. And as mentioned above, those units generate the majority of Police calls in both of those towns. In other words, subsidies generally don't achieve their idealistic goals. And if you force suburban towns into compliance to these housing quotas, by withholding Federal funding for the normal activities that were funded in the past, I think that it will cause some very serious blow-back.
I read that he’s going to allow more renter vouchers and stop redlining. I may not understand exactly what this means or if it’s done anymore but we rent in Bayside and am a Latin American looking to move into our first home in Nassau or Suffolk. Is what I’ve read an indication that in the middle class or wealthier areas of nassau and suffolk there’s going to be renters with vouchers and no long island community is exempt from these laws?
I admit I don’t know much at all about real estate or Biden’s plan but it was a headline I read and you guys were super helpful to me 10 years ago when I moved to Bayside. I know my question sounds elementary sorry I thought someone may know if housing will be affected in this way with renters with vouchers moving into their communities.
I didn’t even know they weren’t allowed to before and don’t know what voucher they are referring to.
Thank you. Sorry if this doesn’t make much sense I’m trying to type with a toddler climbing over me .
To be honest, this should have never happened in the first place. Here is a historical illustration of this: https://dsl.richmond.edu/panorama/re...=5/39.1/-94.58 It gives you information from that time(1940) and it is amazing how much things really haven't changed, as many of the aspects given to said areas pretty much exist even today. That's even if the make up of the people change.
So, there is a history behind this that many may not consider. With that said, I don't think you would see some massive rush to said places and in many cases, people automatically assume that is occurring, but from personal experience and extensive research, many times the people that are assumed to fit a stereotype are middle class themselves or have worked their way up in order to afford to live in said community.
You may have some of these pseudo suburban lower income apartment concentrations or buildings, but they are rare and are usually hidden away from the rest of the community. It isn't like said people are dispersed across the community, which kind of defeats the purpose, if you think about it. So, how things are administered plays a part in that too.
With said places, what you may find is that in an apartment complex of say 10-12 buildings, you'll have 1 or 2 that are problem buildings, but the rest of the complex is generally quiet/fine. I'm saying that from knowing people that have lived in similar types of apartment complexes.
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With said places, what you may find is that in an apartment complex of say 10-12 buildings, you'll have 1 or 2 that are problem buildings, but the rest of the complex is generally quiet/fine. I'm saying that from knowing people that have lived in similar types of apartment complexes.
So what is your definition of a problem building, or problem tenant specifically?
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