Report: Younger people needed in Adirondack area (Rome, Watertown: home, job openings)

[ckhthankgod]

“The Adirondack Park and surrounding communities need younger people to survive and one nonprofit organization focused on community development is offering ideas on how to attract those residents.

“Our demographics to a certain extent define our communities,” said Leslie Karasin, the Adirondack project manager for the Northern Forest Center.

The center, a nonprofit organization spread across four states looking to ensure viability of communities in the Northern Forest region, released Wednesday a list of strategies for communities in the Adirondack Park and surrounding communities to help them attract younger residents to the area.

According to the report the average age of residents in the region is outpacing the average age of the entire state and by 2030 one-third of Adirondack Park residents will be 60 or older.“

More here: https://dailygazette.com/2021/02/17/...irondack-area/

[hotkarl]

Gotta have initiative to be there.

[ckhthankgod]

It looks like they are going to market the area through a website to try and attract young people to parts of the region. As mentioned in the article, I can see portions of the region closer to bigger cities having some draw for younger people.

[Tioga]

Let's see...There's govt jobs(from town to fed level). Some service connected jobs at stores, etc...employment that caters to tourists, 2nd home owners, and up towards Watertown...military and employment that is connected to the military...after that...it gets marginal. Even where I am at in the southern tier, which has a variety of work..the outflow of high school and college grads since the early 90's has been fairly steady. My boys, after military service, are employed in and around the state(building construction and the other a CDL driver). But they are the exception as many of their high school friends are now gone from NY...no doubt..permanently.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by Tioga

Let's see...There's govt jobs(from town to fed level). Some service connected jobs at stores, etc...employment that caters to tourists, 2nd home owners, and up towards Watertown...military and employment that is connected to the military...after that...it gets marginal. Even where I am at in the southern tier, which has a variety of work..the outflow of high school and college grads since the early 90's has been fairly steady. My boys, after military service, are employed in and around the state(building construction and the other a CDL driver). But they are the exception as many of their high school friends are now gone from NY...no doubt..permanently.

I could see some young people working in say Plattsburgh or Watertown. I remember going to a job fair at Fort Drum and there was a representative from Plattsburgh that was trying to market the area in regards to the advanced manufacturing industry there. So, some of this may depend on what part of the Adirondacks people are willing to go to.

I'd say that even the employment in Glens Falls and Saratoga Springs would also come into play.

[Tioga]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

I could see some young people working in say Plattsburgh or Watertown. I remember going to a job fair at Fort Drum and there was a representative from Plattsburgh that was trying to market the area in regards to the advanced manufacturing industry there. So, some of this may depend on what part of the Adirondacks people are willing to go to.

I'd say that even the employment in Glens Falls and Saratoga Springs would also come into play.

....True enough...there's both good/bad in the upstate/ADK employment for the 30 and under crowd. Now..I am sure I predate your arrival on this earth..and with that said...a reunion booklet sent to me in 2017 from my H.S. class... was an eyeopener.... to see how many are gone..not just from my area..but NY as a whole. Can anyone blame them in looking for a better employment future?

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by Tioga

....True enough...there's both good/bad in the upstate/ADK employment for the 30 and under crowd. Now..I am sure I predate your arrival on this earth..and with that said...a reunion booklet sent to me in 2017 from my H.S. class... was an eyeopener.... to see how many are gone..not just from my area..but NY as a whole. Can anyone blame them in looking for a better employment future?

Sure...I honestly think people move just for something different as well. With that said, I've posted enough job openings/information to illustrate that a lot of the employment situation is based upon the education/skills/willingness of what jobs to work and other factors.

There is also the complaint from companies that they have openings, but they can't find people with the skills to work them. So, there is also the reality of the mismatch between the jobs that are open and the skills that are in a local community.

I believe that is why Clinton Community College in Plattsburgh has an Advanced Manufacturing program, as it allows for local residents to get the skills needed for the local Advanced Manufacturing jobs. P-Tech programs have also grown across the state, which does the same or similar things. So, that is something that also has to be considered in terms of employment.

This doesn't even get into the fact that the days of huge manufacturing companies aren't what they used to be and that smaller firms have emerged out of the downsizing of bigger companies.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

I could see some young people working in say Plattsburgh or Watertown. I remember going to a job fair at Fort Drum and there was a representative from Plattsburgh that was trying to market the area in regards to the advanced manufacturing industry there. So, some of this may depend on what part of the Adirondacks people are willing to go to.

I'd say that even the employment in Glens Falls and Saratoga Springs would also come into play.

Some companies that come to mind in regards to these communities and others near the Adirondacks are: NY Air Brake, Car Freshener Corporation, Swarovski, Nova Bus, Schluter Systems, Global Foundries, C. R. Bard, AngioDynamics, International Paper, Kraft, Benjamin Moore Paints, KAPL, Feldmeier, Corning Inc., FAGE USA, Fibermark, KPH Healthcare Services(aka Kinney Drugs), Beech-Nut and Epimed, among others that interested younger folks could search for employment at.

Perhaps even companies at the Griffiss Business Park in Rome for those that are in the SW portion of the Adirondacks. For instance, Adirondack Central SD is actually based in nearby Boonville.

Another company that comes to mind and for the Baseball enthusiasts, Rawlings makes their Adirondack baseball bats in Dolgeville(there are openings available currently).

[Tioga]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Some companies that come to mind in regards to these communities and others near the Adirondacks are: NY Air Brake, Car Freshener Corporation, Swarovski, Nova Bus, Schluter Systems, Global Foundries, C. R. Bard, AngioDynamics, International Paper, Kraft, Benjamin Moore Paints, KAPL, Feldmeier, Corning Inc., FAGE USA, Fibermark, KPH Healthcare Services(aka Kinney Drugs), Beech-Nut and Epimed, among others that interested younger folks could search for employment at.

Perhaps even companies at the Griffiss Business Park in Rome for those that are in the SW portion of the Adirondacks. For instance, Adirondack Central SD is actually based in nearby Boonville.

Another company that comes to mind and for the Baseball enthusiasts, Rawlings makes their Adirondack baseball bats in Dolgeville(there are openings available currently).

Another factor that figures into all of this is the disinterest/reluctance of the above mentioned age group to consider blue collar jobs. Both sons...CDL driver and construction are 2 of just a few guys in this 18-35 age group that work for their respective employers. Lots of reasons , no doubt...but a good number of this "group" have unrealistic expectations about work and careers. And from my sons' perspectives..frankly..the idea of working hard..has little appeal to a good number of them.

[Tioga]

..I'll add to my post...my brother owns a business near Saratoga..he pays well. A friend near me owns an up to date machine shop. BOTH have had to resort to hiring more retirement age workers...who don't complain all the time, don't have to be pushed to work hard, and show up in time....