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Old 09-29-2021, 04:20 PM
 
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Interesting.

https://gothamist.com/news/national-...ontent=2021929

Last year brought a record-breaking surge in the number of homicides nationally compared to previous years, FBI statistics released Monday found, despite an overall drop in violent crimes.

An estimated 4,901 more homicides took place across the country in 2020, as compared to 2019, an increase to 21,570 homicides, pushing up the U.S. homicide rate to 6.5% per 100,000 people, from 5.1%.

In New York state, the trend coincided with the upward trajectory across the country: The report notes the 2020 homicide rate was 4.2%, up from 2.9% in 2019—which is still below the national average. But the current FBI data doesn’t tell the whole story for New York.
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Old 09-29-2021, 06:03 PM
 
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Interesting.

https://gothamist.com/news/national-...ontent=2021929

Last year brought a record-breaking surge in the number of homicides nationally compared to previous years, FBI statistics released Monday found, despite an overall drop in violent crimes.

An estimated 4,901 more homicides took place across the country in 2020, as compared to 2019, an increase to 21,570 homicides, pushing up the U.S. homicide rate to 6.5% per 100,000 people, from 5.1%.

In New York state, the trend coincided with the upward trajectory across the country: The report notes the 2020 homicide rate was 4.2%, up from 2.9% in 2019—which is still below the national average. But the current FBI data doesn’t tell the whole story for New York.
This is a thing nationally as well, where data gets adjusted for some states and not for others. An article that touches on this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...ort-1539946801

A related article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pew...e-u-s/%3famp=1
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Old 10-04-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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Here is a related series in terms of what parts of some cities in the Hudson Valley are dealing with: https://www.recordonline.com/story/n...rd/5912663001/
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Old 10-04-2021, 11:15 AM
 
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Interesting.

https://gothamist.com/news/national-...ontent=2021929

Last year brought a record-breaking surge in the number of homicides nationally compared to previous years, FBI statistics released Monday found, despite an overall drop in violent crimes.

An estimated 4,901 more homicides took place across the country in 2020, as compared to 2019, an increase to 21,570 homicides, pushing up the U.S. homicide rate to 6.5% per 100,000 people, from 5.1%.

In New York state, the trend coincided with the upward trajectory across the country: The report notes the 2020 homicide rate was 4.2%, up from 2.9% in 2019—which is still below the national average. But the current FBI data doesn’t tell the whole story for New York.
Looking at just Rochester, murders have doubled this year. Almost all black on black crime. The current mayor is in court today to answer charges of campaign finance cheating. She also still has charges of drugs and illegal weapons in her home, where her young child lives. Setting a great example for others. Of course the no bail laws and early release of convicted criminals doesn't help. The criminals have been taught that there is NO repercussion for comiting crimes against your fellow man.

Who's in charge here????
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Old 10-04-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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Looking at just Rochester, murders have doubled this year. Almost all black on black crime. The current mayor is in court today to answer charges of campaign finance cheating. She also still has charges of drugs and illegal weapons in her home, where her young child lives. Setting a great example for others. Of course the no bail laws and early release of convicted criminals doesn't help. The criminals have been taught that there is NO repercussion for comiting crimes against your fellow man.

Who's in charge here????
No such thing, as it is just crime. Most people that kill people, kill those that look like them. It really shouldn't matter anyway.

I think the issue is really more national than admitted, as there have been upticks in cities across the country for various reasons. Historically or at least in the past couple of decades, the rate in for the state has been in the lower half to the middle at worst. Ironically, I came across this article from 1989 while trying to find another one I read a few days ago: https://buffalonews.com/news/rochest...64fdfb926.html

The article I was looking for: https://time.com/6084464/buffalo-roc...force-arrests/

Homicides by state for 2020: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...e-us-by-state/

Rate by state 2020: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...e-us-by-state/ (31 states have a higher rate than NY State based on the information available)

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Old 10-04-2021, 11:59 AM
 
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No such thing, as it is just crime. Most people that kill people, kill those that look like them. It really shouldn't matter anyway.
Just a crime. Hmm.

No, it shouldn't mater, but it maters a lot to certain people
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Old 10-04-2021, 12:02 PM
 
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No such thing, as it is just crime. Most people that kill people, kill those that look like them. It really shouldn't matter anyway.

as there have been upticks in cities across the country



Yup. Cities.

Like I just said. Who's in charge of the cities?
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Old 10-04-2021, 01:00 PM
 
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Just a crime. Hmm.

No, it shouldn't mater, but it maters a lot to certain people
Sure, those that live in those communities. My point is that the label doesn't occur with other groups and the vast majority of the crime occurs within proximity.

As for the other post, I mentioned the state information due to what the OP stated, which was state related.
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Old 10-04-2021, 01:35 PM
 
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Sure, those that live in those communities. My point is that the label doesn't occur with other groups and the vast majority of the crime occurs within proximity.

As for the other post, I mentioned the state information due to what the OP stated, which was state related.
Yes, you are correct about proximity, but I don't hear a peep about all the white people being killed, just the blacks. And the reason is that whites and police are being wrongly accused for the overwhelming majority of black murders.
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Old 10-04-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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Yes, you are correct about proximity, but I don't hear a peep about all the white people being killed, just the blacks. And the reason is that whites and police are being wrongly accused for the overwhelming majority of black murders.
Where did you get that information from? I have never heard that at all and I think you know that.

I don't know why you don't hear about the other people being killed.
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