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Old 07-10-2023, 01:44 PM
 
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How do those jobs help pay for the Thruway outside of the tolls that pay for it now?
There are books that explain how economies work, but I'll throw you a bone here:

You know how everyone, especially companies complain about how high NYS taxes are? When we do get a company to locate in NYS, they pay the very high taxes that everyone hates. Those taxes go into the state cofers, but should be dedicated to maintain the area those taxes originated. There's your money,
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Old 07-10-2023, 02:12 PM
 
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There are books that explain how economies work, but I'll throw you a bone here:

You know how everyone, especially companies complain about how high NYS taxes are? When we do get a company to locate in NYS, they pay the very high taxes that everyone hates. Those taxes go into the state cofers, but should be dedicated to maintain the area those taxes originated. There's your money,
Again, those taxes are obviously not allocated for the Thruway though. Hence, the tolls that paid for the Thruway Authority to maintain the highway and even for states that don't have a toll road, you pay via gas taxes. So, what you would likely see with the getting rid of the tolls is an increase in the gas tax or essentially a shift in revenue for maintenance. That is why I asked about the solution to maintaining the Thruway, as the gas tax already helps to maintain the other highway and transportation infrastructure in the state, but the Thruway is maintained via tolls. If you can read this article, it breaks down how the Thruway is maintained by tolls: https://www.lohud.com/story/opinion/...em/7166986001/

Again, this isn't to be negative, but it is being realistic about how the highway is maintained and the other option for maintaining it.
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Old 07-10-2023, 05:07 PM
 
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Again, those taxes are obviously not allocated for the Thruway though. Hence, the tolls that paid for the Thruway Authority to maintain the highway and even for states that don't have a toll road, you pay via gas taxes. So, what you would likely see with the getting rid of the tolls is an increase in the gas tax or essentially a shift in revenue for maintenance. That is why I asked about the solution to maintaining the Thruway, as the gas tax already helps to maintain the other highway and transportation infrastructure in the state, but the Thruway is maintained via tolls. If you can read this article, it breaks down how the Thruway is maintained by tolls: https://www.lohud.com/story/opinion/...em/7166986001/

Again, this isn't to be negative, but it is being realistic about how the highway is maintained and the other option for maintaining it.
Don't even try to put words in my mouth. If you don't realize that you pay approximately an extra $50 every time you purchase a stove, or a certain portion for literally EVERYTHING we purchase, and if we didn't that could pay for maintenance.
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Old 07-10-2023, 05:30 PM
 
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Don't even try to put words in my mouth. If you don't realize that you pay approximately an extra $50 every time you purchase a stove, or a certain portion for literally EVERYTHING we purchase, and if we didn't that could pay for maintenance.
Do you even know what you are referring to where I put words in your mouth?

Again, you are conflating one thing for another. Tolls pay for the Thruway maintenance and if the tolls are taken away, you would have to use some other form of revenue to maintain it.

To get back to the original topic, I think the reason bellafinzi even went there is because CNY has the Wolfspeed plant in Marcy outside of Utica and the Micron plant projected for Clay outside of Syracuse. There is also a drone industry corridor between the two areas in the same region. I’d say that the only issue is that unlike Raleigh/Durham, the Syracuse and Utica-Rome areas don’t have the Triangle Research Park to bridge the two areas like it does for Raleigh/Durham.
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Old 07-10-2023, 06:07 PM
 
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Again, those taxes are obviously not allocated for the Thruway though. Hence, the tolls that paid for the Thruway Authority to maintain the highway and even for states that don't have a toll road, you pay via gas taxes. So, what you would likely see with the getting rid of the tolls is an increase in the gas tax or essentially a shift in revenue for maintenance. That is why I asked about the solution to maintaining the Thruway, as the gas tax already helps to maintain the other highway and transportation infrastructure in the state, but the Thruway is maintained via tolls. If you can read this article, it breaks down how the Thruway is maintained by tolls: https://www.lohud.com/story/opinion/...em/7166986001/

Again, this isn't to be negative, but it is being realistic about how the highway is maintained and the other option for maintaining it.
You post an OPINION article as your "facts"? OK
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Old 07-10-2023, 08:01 PM
 
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You post an OPINION article as your "facts"? OK
It is from the executive director of the Thruway Authority, who would have more knowledge of how funding of the Thruway would work than anyone. He was also a former mayor of Syracuse. So, this isn’t some imaginary person.

The article was in response to lawmakers considering eliminating tolls for the summer, but the piece explains that the Thruway would need some form of funding in order for maintenance of the highway and that tolls, not taxes fund the Thruway in terms of maintenance. Keep in mind that tolls would also come from out of state drivers which actually takes the burden off the in state tax payer and funding comes from those that actually use it.

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