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Old 04-07-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod View Post
Yes, Selkirk does have a unique history in that regard. Like you mentioned, the small towns near the Great Lakes have notable Black populations that go back decades or even well over a century. You also have towns with an Underground Railroad history or had industries that attracted some Black families. For instance, towns/small cities like Owego, Norwich, Canandaigua, Bath, Little Falls, Amsterdam and Peterboro had churches that worshipped in the African American tradition and the village of Cooperstown at one time in the late 19th century was almost 10% Black due to the tourism industry they worked in.

For those interested, look in your area for an African Methodist Episcopal or African Methodist Episcopal Zion church, as that church will likely offer historical insight into the history of the Black community there.

Another thing that could offer insight historically is to search through old yearbooks on classmates.com You may be surprised by some communities. LeRoy and Caledonia-Mumford were a couple for me and going back to the early 20th century.
References: Caledonia-Mumford: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...149684?page=13
http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...149684?page=21 (earliest edition available)


Le Roy:




Both are small town areas SW of Rochester, that are rivals and have a similar history. Both also have Baptist churches that worship out of the African American tradition.

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Old 04-07-2018, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Linda_d View Post
I think that because the black population of the rural areas of Upstate NY is so low, it makes the black populations of the smaller cities there more noticeable than it might be if the same general percentages were spread more evenly among urban, suburban, and rural areas.

There are so few blacks in rural NY because most blacks migrated to Upstate NY primarily during/since WW II to work in the factories that used to provide prosperity for most upstate cities and villages. They escaped the southern cotton, rice, and tobacco fields of the rural South, and they weren't going back to living that kind of existence again any more than white farmers' kids who flocked to "town jobs" or "the city" weren't going back to milking cows and shoveling manure.

The two exceptions that I can think of are the fruit growing/truck farming areas along Lakes Erie and Ontario and Selkirk, NY. The truck farming area has a long history of using immigrant/migrant labor in their fields. In the early 1900s, Italian immigrants did the field work (that's how my dad's family ended up in North Collins, NY). Later, they were replaced by some southern blacks but mostly by Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans, and have since been replaced by Latinos from the Dominican Republic, Mexico, and Central America. Most of the descendents of these rural blacks eventually made their ways to Buffalo, Rochester or Syracuse.

Selkirk, which is just south of Albany, had one of the country's largest rail yards (it might still), and the railroads were one of the few employers who hired blacks early on in the 20th century. Consequently, numerous black families who worked for the railroad (New York Central, I guess, then) settled in and around Selkirk, although most of their children and grandchildren eventually moved up to Albany or down to NYC for better opportunities. When I lived in Ravena, NY, back in the late 1980s/early 1990s, there were still some elderly blacks and a handful of black families in the Selkird hamlet.
Here are likely some of the people affiliated with what is referred to in the bolded area from the 1939 addition of the Ravena-Coeymans-Selkirk HS yearbook: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea.../54283?page=13
Can view more by swiping or clicking on arrows(if on a computer).
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:08 AM
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In recent times, I'd say the last eight years or so, the black community of Watkins Glen has grown.
Some references from the past: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...852247?page=11






(1910): http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...852214?page=19





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Old 04-08-2018, 09:44 AM
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This page has some HS pictorial references of people mentioned in this thread: //www.city-data.com/forum/gener...erican-10.html
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Old 04-09-2018, 06:29 AM
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More sports references from the Southern Tier: https://www.pressconnects.com/story/...ars/480714002/


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Old 04-09-2018, 07:49 AM
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Sports reference from the Watertown area: Watertown Daily Times | 2017-18 Times All-North Boys Basketball Team
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:43 AM
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Updated info: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0750913/bio?ref_=m_mn_ov_bio
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Old 04-09-2018, 04:20 PM
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More sports references: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jones






https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Hall (attended Port Byron High)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Hardeman (played QB at Auburn High in early 70's)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cash_(baseball) (also was a QB for Proctor High in the 60's and a good Basketball player)







https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Washington (attended Rome Free Academy in the early/mid 80's)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Jones_(1990s_outfielder) (also played QB at Liverpool High)



GF Nationals LL Team : Glens Falls Area Baseball Society and Hall of Fame
A summer to remember
More HS pic references of the bolded names, Mark May as a Junior at Oneonta HS on its Varsity Football team(#72): http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...26501?page=129 (swipe to the right, if on cell phone)
On Basketball team: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...26501?page=133

Dave Cash as a Senior at the old Proctor HS in Utica: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...833330?page=27
On Basketball team: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...33330?page=103
Football: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...33330?page=105
Baseball: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...33330?page=109

Roosevelt Bouie as a Senior at Kendall HS in Orleans County: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea.../209889?page=9
Basketball: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...209889?page=95
Roosevelt Bouie

Anthony Washington as a Senior at RFA: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...860202?page=51
Football(#65): http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...860202?page=69
Was 2nd in the State for the Discus in 1984.

Chris Jones as a Junior at Liverpool HS(Homeroom 223): http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...90182?page=103
Baseball: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...90182?page=171
Football(#11): http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...90182?page=183
Basketball(#21): http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...90182?page=193

The late Will Smith as a Junior at Proctor HS in Utica: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...247370?page=65
Football(#80 with glasses): http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...47370?page=130
Basketball: http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yea...47370?page=142

(swipe to the right, if on cell phone to view some pictures to the left)

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Old 04-10-2018, 08:53 AM
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Niagara Catholic Junior-Senior High School
Niagara Catholic High School - Private School


The Charles Finney School | A Private Christian School in Rochester, NY

Living Word Academy - A Ministry of the The Church of the Living Word

Some that come close and/or may meet the criteria(around 10% Black and up), "depending on who you include": CBA Syracuse
Christian Brothers Academy - Private School

Notre Dame Schools | Utica NY's Premium Private Education
Notre Dame Junior Senior High School - Private School

Faith Heritage School - a multi-denominational Christian SchoolFaith Heritage School | a multi-denominational Christian School
https://k12.niche.com/faith-heritage...l-syracuse-ny/ (scroll down for demographics)

Manlius Pebble Hill School: A Pre-Kindergarten through Grade 12 Private School near Syracuse, New York

The Albany Academies, single-gender independent day schools in Albany, | The Albany Academies
Albany Academies - Private School

Private Catholic School in Troy NY : Catholic Central High School
Catholic Central High School - Private School

Private Catholic School Serving Grades 6-12 in the Albany Area : Notre Dame-Bishop Gibbons School
Notre Dame-bishop Gibbons School - Private School

Canisius High School - Private School

Buffalo Seminary - independent day and boarding school for girls
Buffalo Seminary - Private School

St. Joseph's Collegiate Institute
St Joseph's Collegiate Institute - Private School

Norte Dame High School - Private School

Bishop Ludden Junior/Senior High School
Bishop Ludden Jr Sr High School - Private School
New data for Cardinal O’Hara: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00927894

Faith Heritage: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00938352
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:07 AM
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More: Patent US393971 - Road-cart - Google Patents
https://books.google.com/books?id=hN...ksmith&f=false (Joseph M. Fugett was an inventor and entrepreneur that owned a blacksmith and carriage shop in the village of Baldwinsville in the late 1800's/early 1900's)

This junior high in West Chester PA is named after his son who was born and raised in Baldwinsville, as well as Waterloo, where he graduated from high school. He also graduated from Cornell and was professor at Tuskegee, as well as a principal at a school within the West Chester SD: Browser Not Supported

Also, at the end of the J.R. Fugett article, there is a mention of Henry Bakeman. He is one of the first permanent, non Native settlers of what is now the Fulton area, as he was given a tract of land after his service in the Revolutionary War. Some of his descendants still live in Oswego and Onondaga Counties today. Henry Bakeman (1765 - 1835) - Find A Grave Memorial

Benjamin and Rachel Bakeman House

Snippet of an article about Cooperstown: JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie

North Elba Journal - Recalling Timbuctoo, A Slice of Black History - NYTimes.com
Adirondack Museum | Adirondack Journal — Timbucto: African American History in the Adirondacks
Information/history reference for the second segment(original site doesn’t work): https://www.wcasd.net/Domain/408


More on Henry Bakeman: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/.../henry-bakeman
His son, who was born in Montgomery County and also lived in South Onondaga in the town of Onondaga where others of African descent lived(in Onondaga Central SD): https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...njamin-bakeman

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