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Old 04-06-2009, 07:15 PM
 
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live in westchester county i went for me gun permit jan 4 09 still waiting.i went for a cc
for my own bussness.anyone know how long it takes and if its hard to get
thanks
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:10 PM
 
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Here's something for pondering...

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, Detroit & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons'', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles'', because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.

Enjoy!
~Mark




As a proud law abiding gun owner myself I find this post false,ignorant and offensive. Your obviously a city person who whatches too much news
and know's nothing about guns and is misinformed. face it the second amendment will be here forever, sorry.

no cops should not be the only one's to have guns, then the public would be powerless and over time the government would become more controlling over time.

If stricter gun control actually helped new jersey would have no gun crime, and vermont which has virtually no gun crime has very relaxed gun laws.

face it if everyone had a gun there would be alot less crime, and besides most gun crimes are commited with guns that are illegal to begin with.

even if all guns were banned there would still be gun crime, so stop with the bs, because if this freedom goes more freedoms will soon go.

and no cops are not always there.

On another note there should be responsible regulations as well on gun ownership.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:30 AM
 
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As a proud law abiding gun owner myself I find this post false,ignorant and offensive. Your obviously a city person who whatches too much news
and know's nothing about guns and is misinformed. face it the second amendment will be here forever, sorry.

no cops should not be the only one's to have guns, then the public would be powerless and over time the government would become more controlling over time.

If stricter gun control actually helped new jersey would have no gun crime, and vermont which has virtually no gun crime has very relaxed gun laws.

face it if everyone had a gun there would be alot less crime, and besides most gun crimes are commited with guns that are illegal to begin with.

even if all guns were banned there would still be gun crime, so stop with the bs, because if this freedom goes more freedoms will soon go.

and no cops are not always there.

On another note there should be responsible regulations as well on gun ownership.
Hmmm, perhaps you don't quite grasp the concept of sarcastic humor? False, ignorant and offensive...that was the intent of the list. Duh.

BTW, it's "you're", not "your" and "watches", not "whatches". As the H key is nowhere near the W and A, I know you didn't accidentally hit it.

The lack of comprehension is comical.
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Old 11-01-2010, 08:51 PM
 
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Infringement: an encroachment or trespass on a right or privilege


Gun "Laws" at the federal, state, and local levels are unconstitutional restrictions on our freedom plain and simple. The true gun law is the 2nd amendment, end of story, don't like it, amend it the right way.

In no way shape or form should I have to fill out paperwork, pay fees/extortion, get fingerprinted, background check, etc. then wait 6 months or more to maybe own a gun. All these gun laws/rules/policies should be completely abolished. Owning a firearm is not a "privilege" like some claim to be like getting a drivers license. It is a constitutionally guaranteed right. Do I need permission from the government to speak out against our elected officials, oh wait no we have the 1st amendment. Guess what, all the amendments count, not just some.

Also people need to stop being so damn afraid of guns too, people need to become educated in their use and actually fire one. My father taught me to shoot rifles and handguns at a very young age. I do not tremble at the sight or thought of a firearm like many people do. I don't hunt nor do I want to but I will defend myself, my family, and my property if I have to.

I do not have nor require any of these illegitimate overpriced government permission slips to exercize my constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms. If I am illegally arrested for possessing a firearm I will fight to the very end throughout the entire judicial process. My argument, The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed per the 2nd amendment. Pretty simple to me, don't need a legalese degree to understand that one.

NYC does not even recognize the constitution especially with its Mayoral dictatorship and far too many of its Citizens just accept it and get to pay for it with an absurd level of taxation, among other things. There are plenty of people who believe people living in cities should not be able to own a gun. These people are insane. Cities are more densely populated, people live in tighter conditions and aggression is heightened in cities from living so closely to so many people, crime is also higher where there are more people. So, if anything, people living in cities more than anyone else, need to be armed.

Every oppressive government/dictatorship throughout history sought out and disarmed their populations. The 2nd amendment guarantees all others. Please, don't wish to be a slave.
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