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Old 06-03-2009, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Rochester, NY
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"ALBANY — The Senate gave final legislative approval today to a bill that would make it easier for citizens and local officials to consolidate or dissolve local governments."

N.Y. Senate OKs consolidation bill | democratandchronicle.com | Democrat and Chronicle
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:05 PM
 
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This is great news. There are far too many levels of government in NYS. I think we should be like the rest of the country... if you don't live in a village or city, you should get your services from the county (and heck, Massachusetts doesn't even have *those* anymore.) The New York style "town" is so archaic and has no reason to exist.Similarly, there are a lot of school districts that could be merged.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Rochester, NY
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This is great news. There are far too many levels of government in NYS. I think we should be like the rest of the country... if you don't live in a village or city, you should get your services from the county (and heck, Massachusetts doesn't even have *those* anymore.) The New York style "town" is so archaic and has no reason to exist.Similarly, there are a lot of school districts that could be merged.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Massachusetts the state that had similar problems to NY and was able to turn itself around? The reason why Boston saw its boom.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I have seen first hand what happens when you "consolidate" local villages and etc into county size governments.....nothing but added grief

your taxes will not go down
your services will dwindle
and you will find someone else to blame
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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I think you'll find alot of benifits. We have one goverment for the entire county, one school district, and only one tax. It's probably the most efficent goverment I have ever lived under. I know in Rockland there are so many governing bodies between a village, town & county that the taxes are outragious and the services horrible. Why does one county need 8 school districts, 6 townships and I don't even know how many village goverments? Other than job creation what is the advantage?
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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I have seen first hand what happens when you "consolidate" local villages and etc into county size governments.....nothing but added grief

your taxes will not go down
your services will dwindle
and you will find someone else to blame
I think it is more about things like fire and water districts, versus being more about villages and towns. I know that is included, but I think that would be less of a concern, versus the extra fire, water and other districts. I think school districts should have been included too.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:35 PM
 
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Eliminate all towns and make the county a coterminous county-town government, and simultaneously allow all hamlets to form villages. This would also require all cities to become villages, as well.

NYS Geographic Glossary may be of some help in understanding the political-geography of New York State.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:32 PM
 
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Eliminate all towns and make the county a coterminous county-town government, and simultaneously allow all hamlets to form villages.
I wouldn't go that far... Having villages of Delmar, Slingerlands, Glenmont, and Selkirk for example is even worse than the current situation. I say just abolish towns and keep current villages and cities.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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I wouldn't go that far... Having villages of Delmar, Slingerlands, Glenmont, and Selkirk for example is even worse than the current situation. I say just abolish towns and keep current villages and cities.

Several hamlets can be grouped together into one village.

Eliminating towns in the absence of creating new villages from pre-existing hamlets would create problems for the unincorporated areas within the county because counties, as a representative of New York State, are prohibited from providing certain services that are currently provided by towns, which, unlike counties, are local governments.
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