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Old 06-20-2017, 08:20 AM
 
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Overall rank: buffalo
rochester
syracuse

City/urban life: buffalo
rochester
syracuse


Suburbs: buffalo / rochester
syracuse

Sports: buffalo
rochester/syracuse


Entertainment/culture: buffalo
rochester
syracuse

Economy: Buffalo/rochester....syracuse has much less economic opportunity

Crime: Syracuse/buffalo are kinda tied when you consider population with rochester seeming to have less crime

Progressiveness: buffalo
rochester
syracuse

Diversity of people: buffalo
rochester
syracuse


Roadways: Upstate cities roadways can be rough due to impact of weather (hard to rank).


Environment: Buffalo has great city parks, lake erie and the niagara river which provide great water recreational opportunities, bike lanes on main thoroughfares, surrounding state parks.
Rochester is about the same minus the water access
Syracuse has great surrounding rural areas/state parks and some nice city parks, has a great recycling program.
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:34 AM
 
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Overall rank: buffalo
rochester
syracuse

City/urban life: buffalo
rochester
syracuse


Suburbs: buffalo / rochester
syracuse

Sports: buffalo
rochester/syracuse


Entertainment/culture: buffalo
rochester
syracuse

Economy: Buffalo/rochester....syracuse has much less economic opportunity

Crime: Syracuse/buffalo are kinda tied when you consider population with rochester seeming to have less crime

Progressiveness: buffalo
rochester
syracuse

Diversity of people: buffalo
rochester
syracuse


Roadways: Upstate cities roadways can be rough due to impact of weather (hard to rank).


Environment: Buffalo has great city parks, lake erie and the niagara river which provide great water recreational opportunities, bike lanes on main thoroughfares, surrounding state parks.
Rochester is about the same minus the water access
Syracuse has great surrounding rural areas/state parks and some nice city parks, has a great recycling program.
In terms of crime, that isn't the case. New York Crime Index City Rank You can click on the city for historic info in that regard. City-data has 2015 information.


Rochester gets suburbs, but the overall differences aren't as large between the 3 areas.

In terms of average annual pay, Rochester and Syracuse are essentially neck and neck, with Buffalo behind the two.

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Old 06-20-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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Stats are stats and don't always give the whole picture. Even ranking each by general categories isn't that helpful. You have to visit each area to see what you like / dislike and what fits best with what you're looking for. Pay attention to the local news, read local papers online, etc. and talk to native residents and newcomers. That will give you a much better perspective than any stats can.
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Old 06-20-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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Stats are stats and don't always give the whole picture. Even ranking each by general categories isn't that helpful. You have to visit each area to see what you like / dislike and what fits best with what you're looking for. Pay attention to the local news, read local papers online, etc. and talk to native residents and newcomers. That will give you a much better perspective than any stats can.
Not necessarily, as things may be reported differently within cities in terms of the media and a history of information can tell a story. Buffalo isn't even twice the size of Syracuse, but has about 24 homicides to Syracuse's 9 so far this year(I believe that Rochester has 8, but don't quote me on that). So, while stats may not tell the whole story(and that can go both ways), they shouldn't be overlooked either.
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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GMA Buffalo 1.3 million

GMA Syracuse 662.5 thousand

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Old 06-20-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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GMA Buffalo 1.3 million

GMA Syracuse 662.5 thousand

Actually, Buffalo is more like 1.1-1.2 million. this is based upon commuting interchange, but it doesn't necessarily covers population influence(i.e.-parts of Canada nearby).




If you are using Urbanized Area, then Buffalo is more than double Syracuse in that regard.

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Old 06-20-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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I am getting all of these rankings from the 2017 Brookings Metro Monitor report. All of these rankings are out of the 100 largest metros from the period 2005-2015.
Anyone wants to dispute Buffalo does not have the best economy, refer to these rankings

Job Growth:
1) Buffalo at 68th
2) Rochester at 79th
3) Syracuse at 90th

Prosperity (Rising wages, standard of living)
1) Buffalo 23rd
2) Syracuse 59th
3) Rochester 78th

Inclusion: (condition of the poor in metros)
1) Buffalo 17th
2) Syracuse 41st
3) Rochester 62nd
https://www.brookings.edu/interactiv...017-dashboard/
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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Environment: Buffalo has great city parks, lake erie and the niagara river which provide great water recreational opportunities, bike lanes on main thoroughfares, surrounding state parks.
Rochester is about the same minus the water access
Rochester has trails on both sides of the Genesee River for the most part and 3 waterfalls. The entire canal has access in the Rochester metro with trails through the entire metro. Lake Ontario in the city alone has 2 parks with over a mile of access. Irondequoit Bay, Finger Lakes. Are you kidding me?
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Old 06-20-2017, 07:06 PM
 
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Rochester has trails on both sides of the Genesee River for the most part and 3 waterfalls. The entire canal has access in the Rochester metro with trails through the entire metro. Lake Ontario in the city alone has 2 parks with over a mile of access. Irondequoit Bay, Finger Lakes. Are you kidding me?
I agree. Why is there a few people on this board from Buffalo who keep repeating this false information that Rochester doesn't have water access?

This is in the city limits alone:

Corn Hill Landing. Notice the boat launches on the Genesee River and the skyline in the background?
City of Rochester | Corn Hill Landing

Genesee Park Waterways which is in Genesee Park in the city and has rowing, canoeing and cayaking on the Genesee
Home | Genesee Waterways Center | Rochester, NY's rowing, flatwater canoeing, whitewater kayaking, outrigger canoeing and flat water canoeing leaders.


Ontario Beach Park
City of Rochester | Ontario Beach Park

Durand Eastman Park
https://www2.monroecounty.gov/parks-durandeastman.php

And this doesn't include all the amazing Finger Lakes, the Bay and the canal in the suburbs. The Sam Patch tour boat goes from Pittsford on the Erie Canal right into the Genesee River and into the city to Corn Hill.
Sam Patch Erie Canal Boat Tours - Pittsford, NY
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Old 06-20-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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Plus:
Genesee Valley Park
Maplewood Park
Seneca Park
Turning Point Park
Charlotte Beach Park
Durand Eastman Park


all within the city of Rochester and on the water
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