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Also, not everyone lives in cities, they're from smaller cities or towns within that respective state, which is another reason.
So generally speaking, you hear the state way more often than the city/town. The odds of a stranger knowing your state are far greater than your city/town.
and regardless, whether you live in Albany, Rochester or down in the city, you still say New York.
Wrong. I have traveled here and there my whole life and always, always, when I say "NY" it is preceived as NYC...... I remember one individual who I told my home was NY and he started rattling/asking about about Manhattan and Yankee Stadium and everything NY and I said "Sorry, not sure, I live outside Rochester", he rebutted, "But you said you were from NY...." and this was not a dumb person. Just geographically challenged!
I wish I didn't have to qualify my existence as a NYer who doesn't live anywhere near the "city", but for most people, NYC/NYS is etched in their minds as one in the same.....
Wrong. I have traveled here and there my whole life and always, always, when I say "NY" it is preceived as NYC...... I remember one individual who I told my home was NY and he started rattling/asking about about Manhattan and Yankee Stadium and everything NY and I said "Sorry, not sure, I live outside Rochester", he rebutted, "But you said you were from NY...." and this was not a dumb person. Just geographically challenged!
I wish I didn't have to qualify my existence as a NYer who doesn't live anywhere near the "city", but for most people, NYC/NYS is etched in their minds as one in the same.....
then they will ASSUME that is Manhattan. NYC IS Manhattan to many, many people. Imagine trying to say you are from STATEN ISLAND? lol They probably have never even HEARD of it, nevermind know that it is part of NYC.
Wrong. I have traveled here and there my whole life and always, always, when I say "NY" it is preceived as NYC...... I remember one individual who I told my home was NY and he started rattling/asking about about Manhattan and Yankee Stadium and everything NY and I said "Sorry, not sure, I live outside Rochester", he rebutted, "But you said you were from NY...." and this was not a dumb person. Just geographically challenged!
I wish I didn't have to qualify my existence as a NYer who doesn't live anywhere near the "city", but for most people, NYC/NYS is etched in their minds as one in the same.....
Im not referring to confusion based on state/city of NY. Im saying, whether you're from Utica, Poughkeepsie, Rochester, Albany or NYC, you say you're from New York, period. If you're from a small town like Hudson and you're down south or on the west coast, or even as close as PA or VA, you're saying you'd say you're from Hudson?
Regardless of how many times you tell them you're not from the city, you're still looked at as a New Yorker (be it state or city). So if you're from Potsdam, Rochester, Binghamton, or Canajoharie, you're still a New Yorker.
Im not referring to confusion based on state/city of NY. Im saying, whether you're from Utica, Poughkeepsie, Rochester, Albany or NYC, you say you're from New York, period. If you're from a small town like Hudson and you're down south or on the west coast, or even as close as PA or VA, you're saying you'd say you're from Hudson?
Regardless of how many times you tell them you're not from the city, you're still looked at as a New Yorker (be it state or city). So if you're from Potsdam, Rochester, Binghamton, or Canajoharie, you're still a New Yorker.
Im not referring to confusion based on state/city of NY. Im saying, whether you're from Utica, Poughkeepsie, Rochester, Albany or NYC, you say you're from New York, period. If you're from a small town like Hudson and you're down south or on the west coast, or even as close as PA or VA, you're saying you'd say you're from Hudson?
Regardless of how many times you tell them you're not from the city, you're still looked at as a New Yorker (be it state or city). So if you're from Potsdam, Rochester, Binghamton, or Canajoharie, you're still a New Yorker.
You're missing the point some of us are trying to make. The perception of most people out of state is that NY is NYC....I'm actually from a small town ala Hudson and I make a reference to the nearest large city, that being Rochester, when explaining where I'm from....
Call it tunnel vision but the further I'm from NYS, the more apt I am to hear the response, "Oh, you don't mean city....?"
It's a small price we pay to be associated with the greatest city on Earth even though it is draining our state's resources
And no city dweller thinks they have a single thing in common with the lumberjack living in Potsdam and vice versa!
When I lived in Iowa I said I moved there from New York STATE - and was once asked: "Why don't you talk like the people on Seinfeld?" The concept of "upstate" didn't translate there either, so it seemed less confusing to say "Northern New York STATE" (although of course no one in NY would consider the environs of Cortland, Ithaca, Binghamton to be "Northern") - I think a couple of times I just said "Pennsylvania" too (that was before I moved to PA, and learned to say "P.A." )
New York must drastically lower property taxes and electric rates. It is too expensive to live or own a business in New York. Everything costs more in New York. It is just ridiculous. I love living where I do. It is beautiful and the people are great, but it is just too expensive.
The report by the Commission on Property Tax Relief provides numerous, doable, commonsense ideas to lower property taxes. The Assembly and Senate needs to get off their butts and implement the recommendations in the report.
I don't see why religious organizations should get a free ride when it comes to paying taxes. They should at least pay 1/2 of the property tax rate. That would be a good start until eventually, over a few years, they could pay the full rate. I don't think it is in the Constitution or any of the amendments that you can't tax religious organizations.
I live in the Town of Easton in Washington County. My mailing address is Greenwich. I tell people I am from Schuylerville (just across the river) so that people don't think I live in Greenwich Village or Greenwich, CT.
By the way, it is pronounced phonetically. It is not pronounced Grenich.
Someone actually wrote a song about it.
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New York must drastically lower property taxes and electric rates. It is too expensive to live or own a business in New York. Everything costs more in New York. It is just ridiculous. I love living where I do. It is beautiful and the people are great, but it is just too expensive.
I currently live in Manitoba, looking to come back home to the US in a couple of years. We are considering Upstate, where I'm from and family lives, but the property taxes are what will probably keep us away. Even Manitoba's electric rates are crazy cheaper that NY's and EVERYTHING'S more expensive here!
You're missing the point some of us are trying to make. The perception of most people out of state is that NY is NYC....I'm actually from a small town ala Hudson and I make a reference to the nearest large city, that being Rochester, when explaining where I'm from....
Call it tunnel vision but the further I'm from NYS, the more apt I am to hear the response, "Oh, you don't mean city....?"
It's a small price we pay to be associated with the greatest city on Earth even though it is draining our state's resources
And no city dweller thinks they have a single thing in common with the lumberjack living in Potsdam and vice versa!
This goes for any of the 50 states, regardless, there are state identities.
As I said above just because our state has one of the largest cities in the world doesn't take anything away from us or the subject at hand.
Urban is urban, it doesn't matter how big. Whether you're comparing someone from inner city Albany to someone in Potsdam or someone from Queens to someone in Potsdam its the same.
We still pay the same taxes don't we?
Nobody else is funding the new Yankee stadium.
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