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Old 09-28-2013, 11:53 PM
 
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Just read an article on the next Z car. Proportions will be closer to the original 240Z, lighter weight, and possibly 2.5L DI turbo 4 capable of more than 300 hp. Speculation is that fuel economy (thanks Democratic Party and Eco-nuts) will be the big focus so possbly less than 300 hp to save gas and Nismo options to boost output aftermarket.
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Old 09-29-2013, 01:07 AM
 
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Please save the partisan/political cheap shots for the Politics and Other Controversies forum. The reason that forum exists is so that the rest of the forums don't get polluted with that junk.

The rest of the industry is going in the direction of downsizing and turbocharging so it would be no surprise if Nissan follow suit. It has been speculated that within a few years you won't even be able to buy a Volkswagen or a Ford passenger car without a turbocharged engine.

One wonders if Nissan shouldn't call it an SX or Silvia if they're gonna use a 4-cylinder. A Z with anything other than 6 cylinders just seems wrong. I also wonder if they're going to try to chase a price point to compete with the Sciobaru BR-FR-Z-S.
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Old 09-29-2013, 03:15 AM
 
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Please save the partisan/political cheap shots for the Politics and Other Controversies forum. The reason that forum exists is so that the rest of the forums don't get polluted with that junk.

The rest of the industry is going in the direction of downsizing and turbocharging so it would be no surprise if Nissan follow suit. It has been speculated that within a few years you won't even be able to buy a Volkswagen or a Ford passenger car without a turbocharged engine.

One wonders if Nissan shouldn't call it an SX or Silvia if they're gonna use a 4-cylinder. A Z with anything other than 6 cylinders just seems wrong. I also wonder if they're going to try to chase a price point to compete with the Sciobaru BR-FR-Z-S.
wouldnt that mean the GTR would then be the new Z if it would be renamed the 250SX (matches engine displacement)?
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:54 AM
 
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All this fuel economy concern and you have little 2.0L turbo'd cars drinking like V8s without the reliability, longevity and consistency of N/A six or 8
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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I still can't get used to the Z's seats no matter how great the car itself is. It's almost as if they make those things for people that weigh 120 pounds. I love the convertibles, but it's gotta be the only softtop convertible with ZERO usable trunk space when the top is down.

I'll be really interested to see how the new car looks although every Z i can remember looked great.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:45 PM
 
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^^ Maybe this.

2016 Nissan Z: 25 Cars Worth Waiting For 2014–2017 – Future Cars – Car and Driver

or this


2015 Nissan 370z Preview - YouTube
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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That concept is overdone, like most current Nissan and Infiniti models. Trying too hard to look spectacular.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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Should of been a Twin Turbo DI V6 or I6 make it light by using Carbon fibre and aluminum and match the performance of the C7 Corvette and priced in the same ball park as a new C7 since the Turbo Datsun and Nissan from the c4 looking 80ès model to the exotic look of the 90s with Corvette performance.

Plus with Toyota having no Supra that was built to be the Corvette, 300ZX and the Mitsubishi 3000GT Rival and with Mitsubishi pulling out of North America taking the Evo with them and Toyota not wanting to build a car that competes with the LFA when aftermarket support comes out for them it seems that Nissan could have the only true Corvette rival.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:11 PM
 
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Should of been a Twin Turbo DI V6 or I6 make it light by using Carbon fibre and aluminum and match the performance of the C7 Corvette and priced in the same ball park as a new C7 since the Turbo Datsun and Nissan from the c4 looking 80ès model to the exotic look of the 90s with Corvette performance.

Plus with Toyota having no Supra that was built to be the Corvette, 300ZX and the Mitsubishi 3000GT Rival and with Mitsubishi pulling out of North America taking the Evo with them and Toyota not wanting to build a car that competes with the LFA when aftermarket support comes out for them it seems that Nissan could have the only true Corvette rival.
umm, they already have one. it's called the GTR.
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Old 10-01-2013, 03:53 AM
 
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umm, they already have one. it's called the GTR.
Well that's not quite true if you take GTOlover's criteria to heart. The price of the GT-R is now in the six figure range, competing in the same market as the C6 ZR-1 rather than the entry-level C7, which technically starts in the low 50s but more realistically stickers in the low to mid-60s by the time you add in the options you're likely to find on a C7 sitting on a dealer lot. What's more, the GT-R's performance is also on par with the ZR-1, which both handily blow the C7 out of the water.

Additionally, he advocates the extensive use of aluminum and carbon fiber to bring the weight down closer to C7 levels, which is roughly 3300 pounds. Meanwhile, the GT-R weighs in at about three hummingbirds shy of 4,000 pounds. Imagine how much it would cost to use enough carbon fiber and aluminum to get the GT-R down to 3300 pounds. Shedding the AWD system would probably dump 300 pounds all by itself, but getting it down an additional 400 or so pounds would be quite costly.

It's true that the 90s-era Japanese quasi-supercars like the 300ZX TT, Supra TT, and VR-4 were strong performance competitors to the Corvette and in many ways were technically superior cars. However, they were at least as expensive as a 'vette if not more so when they first arrived here, and quickly grew much more expensive as exchange rates came to disfavor the yen. Additionally, exchange rate or not they eventually out-priced their target markets, which is a big part of why all of them were eventually discontinued while the Corvette soldiers on.

The notion of the Z car being a Corvette competitor existed only for that brief period of the 90s; and even then, only for the turbocharged version. Otherwise, the Z has always occupied the space one step below the Vette both in price and performance, and that even holds true for the base non-turbo model in the 90s. There's no reason for Nissan to chase the Corvette with the Z, especially when it already has a halo car positioned above the 'Vette.
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