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Whether it was a contrived opening post or not, it is still a valid and real topic for discussion with many sincere and helpful posts and an informative genuine discussion which many benefit from.
When I was told I had less than 6 months to live i remembered conversations I had overheard both as a child and young adult about women with cancer and when it occurred in relation to what was going on in their life. My mother commented how upsetting it was when her mother found her husband was unfaithful and they got divorced. A friend spoke of her aunt who was in an abusive marriage in a time and place where women did not divorce and her illness and subsequent death were her way to escape that situation.
I became very interested in these stories, how people described what their cancer meant to them. It made a difference to me to find meaning in what is going on not just random stuff.
I think it's doubtful that the OP was genuine, and since that poster is no longer around it's a moot point, but I think this entire thread is a good example of the danger of "black and white" thinking. As a two-time cancer survivor myself, I'm shocked at how many people who have never had any type of cancer are quick to take up a ridiculously hard-line stance: "If I got cancer, I would not seek any treatment! I would just accept my fate and enjoy the time I had left!"
I always supposed that these people would change their tune if they found out they had an early-stage tumor that could be easily removed surgically, or something relatively simple like that. Apparently many would not, and I can't imagine why, unless, like the OP, they are already mentally ill or suicidal.
My first cancer was diagnosed 11 years ago. I had surgery and three months of chemo, and was cured. I had a different cancer five years ago. Surgery, three more months of chemo, cured again. I live a 100% normal, healthy, active life and hardly think about the fact that I once had cancer. Of course, I could have chosen not to be treated, and in that case the first tumor would almost certainly have killed me by now, leaving my three children motherless.
It's one thing to be told you have stage 4 cancer and realistically have only a few months left, and refuse treatment. But how foolish to choose a long, lingering, painful decline from an disease that could have been cured. Of all things, "I will refuse treatment for any cancer!" is not the hill anyone sane should choose to (literally) die on.
Fair enough. It's easy for me to say I wouldn't seek treatment, I've never received a cancer diagnosis. If I ever were told I had cancer I might run screaming for the nearest cancer treatment center, who knows. Anyway, I'm glad you've beaten your cancer. I'm sure your kids are, too.
If the OP was trolling she/he/whatever did a fine job at it. The arguments continue despite the absence and status change of the OP.
Since this is an open forum the presence of the OP is not required for there to be viable discussion of the pros and cons of the stance he has claimed to have adopted. Certainly the varied viewpoints displayed here, whether informed or ignorant and the experiences shared by those who have been similarly affected, can be of value to the general public. The absence and status change of the OP are irrelevant.
The decision to intentionally no longer exist at the age of 30 with a stage 2 contained renal cancer is an example of mental illness. It’s called suicidal ideation. Treatment of this cancer is straightforward and quite successful. 75% survival after 5 years.
In fact, his cancer is not the real problem. His mental illness is what is going to kill him.
Here is his quote: “I also do not believe life is somewhat precious. Mine certainly isn't.”
This is pretty much the definition of a mentally ill outlook. Especially at 30 years old. This person desperately needs to see a mental health professional.
Once he addresses the mental illness he might regain the will to exist, and will then change his mind on treatment options for the cancer.
No, refusing treatment is not mental illness. Not everyone thinks cancer treatments are fantastic.
And not everyone has to AGREE on EVERYTHING. Despite what the media tells us.
God gave doctors the intelligence to cure people for a reason. Medicine and treatments were invented for a reason to help people etc. I know that it can be a scary time, but you have family that will help you through and that are willing to support you. If you do not atleast try to get treatment then that means you didn't even try. My grandmother got stomach surgery last year, she and the entire family was so scared about the surgery because of the risks of her old age. However, we said to her that this is her only chance at survival. If she didnt go through the surgery she would of died and if she did get surgery there was a chance to die. However she went through with surgery because it was her only chance at living. It was the most scariest and stressful time for our family because we are so scared and against surgery. However, the surgery went so well that she is now back to her daily normal life and I am so happy we didn't lose her. It was a very emotionally time for my family and I'm so glad everything worked out with God's grace. So it is very stupid of you to not see a doctor and not to get treated. You only have one life to live and life is so precious. Be blessed that you even had a life on this earth.
God gave doctors the intelligence to cure people for a reason. Medicine and treatments were invented for a reason to help people etc. I know that it can be a scary time, but you have family that will help you through and that are willing to support you. If you do not atleast try to get treatment then that means you didn't even try. My grandmother got stomach surgery last year, she and the entire family was so scared about the surgery because of the risks of her old age. However, we said to her that this is her only chance at survival. If she didnt go through the surgery she would of died and if she did get surgery there was a chance to die. However she went through with surgery because it was her only chance at living. It was the most scariest and stressful time for our family because we are so scared and against surgery. However, the surgery went so well that she is now back to her daily normal life and I am so happy we didn't lose her. It was a very emotionally time for my family and I'm so glad everything worked out with God's grace. So it is very stupid of you to not see a doctor and not to get treated. You only have one life to live and life is so precious. Be blessed that you even had a life on this earth.
So what is the reason that "God" gives people cancer? Have you ever thought that maybe "God" wants those people to die and not pursue any medical treatment? Or are you going to blame Satan for giving people cancer? Yet the OP is supposedly the one with the mental illness...
No, refusing treatment is not mental illness. Not everyone thinks cancer treatments are fantastic.
And not everyone has to AGREE on EVERYTHING. Despite what the media tells us.
No one thinks cancer treatments are "fantastic". They are colloquially referred to as "slash, poison and burn." But when the alternative is death, most people think that they are a pretty good alternative, particularly for someone who is young and has a form of cancer with an extremely high success rate of being cured. And it does seem odd that someone would deliberately choose death over treatment, just because it might be unpleasant to go through, as if the process of letting cancer advance and spread and kill you wouldn't be unpleasant.
No one thinks cancer treatments are "fantastic". They are colloquially referred to as "slash, poison and burn." But when the alternative is death, most people think that they are a pretty good alternative, particularly for someone who is young and has a form of cancer with an extremely high success rate of being cured. And it does seem odd that someone would deliberately choose death over treatment, just because it might be unpleasant to go through, as if the process of letting cancer advance and spread and kill you wouldn't be unpleasant.
How do you know he is going to die?
My MIL lived 12 years after her breast cancer diagnosis. I have no doubts she would lived a shorter life had she had treatment.
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